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  • edited March 2019

    Sounds like if Tories back the deal May will leave as PM

    And presumably if they don't, she stays :hmm:

    She's backed herself into a corner here. If she can't get her deal through even with the promise of stepping aside, surely she has to go anyway.

    This just opens the door to posturing and positioning by the likes of Gove, Johnson and the purely coincidentally as-of-today more moderate Reece-Mogg, the thought of which makes my stomach turn.


  • May's deal has been voted on twice already.

    And there were some changes between the 2 votes: they got the rewording/additional wording from the EU.
  • MrsGrey,
    "In other news, apples aren't pears."

    Source please. :biggrin:

    No but from the same plant family rosaceae
  • Cuz are you a gardener/horticulturalist or something? :bowdown:
  • No lol worked for Morrison’s for years after I left the Royal Navy
  • Said of May following her speech to the 1922 Committee:

    "She was passionate about getting the deal through, passionate about keeping the party together and passionate about keeping the government as the government, passionate about keeping Jeremy Corbyn out of Number 10."

    So yeah, priorities.
  • Johnson has now said he'll back the meaningful vote.

    I wonder why that is :hmm:
  • edited March 2019
    Maybe because he’s thought long and hard about it and it’s what the majority of the people want, ie to leave, can’t think of any other reason off hand lol
  • Cuz, or it be that if the vote for her deal wins, she'll step aside and leave him in pole position for our new PM.
    Although I don't for one minute think that would be his motive. :biggrin:
  • I think boris probably won’t be pm now think before may was his best chance but that now gone imo
  • We can but hope.
  • DUP has said it will not support May's deal.

    So basically the resignation is off.

    Boris :wave:
  • Vorse :ok:

    It all feels rather


  • It’s a stickier situation since sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun
  • edited March 2019
    All joking aside, which in itself is near impossible, Brexit is making the UK a laughing stock on the world stage.
    Whether we remain or leave I can't see that the UK will ever recover any semblance of respect that it once had.
    So, thanks, JR-M, the ERG, BoJo, Nigel "Public Enemy #1" Farage, and an extra special thanks to David Cameron, but not forgetting Liam "easiest deal in the world" Fox, David "if democracy can't change its mind, it's not democracy" Davis and all the rest that I can't be bothered to waste my time or energy in trying to remember the names of those who will be remembered by history as members of the worst UK government in modern times.
    It used to be thought that Italian politics wore the crown of the most dysfunctional - well that dubious headgear has moved 1400 kms north-west. :angry:
  • Calm down Bubbles, you`ll do yourself a mischief. Mays deal won`t pass, you`ll get your way, there will either be another referendum, or article 50 will get revoked. Hoping for the latter, looking forward to the EU elections either way, it will be carnage. :wahoo:

    Oh, and the EU are 100% prepared for no deal, I assume they have the Irish border problem sorted. Can`t be that difficult. :wahoo:
  • Madcap, you seem very sure about there being either another referendum, or article 50 being revoked.
    Any reason for that?
  • Because our wonderful politicians don`t have the stomach for it. They have had three years to come up with a plan. One day before we are meant to leave, and the indicative votes show.......................................

    :fence:


    Lets carry on as we are. What could go wrong. We don`t make much of anything anymore, thank god we`re a nation of shopkeepers eh. I think the current system is failing the vast majority of people, I think the EU is a big part of the current system. I think "civilized" society is on a downward spiral, I would like to hope we could do something about that. Looks like the opportunity has passed though.

    " Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth"
  • Vorse, keep up mate, this was posted on page 23 :biggrin:
  • Madcap, or would you prefer
    "Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or a knife, and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot the owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination."
    :nonono:
  • Posted while I had pointed the site to the wrong database...
    Cuz1 said:

    Couldn’t lie straight in bed the lot of them

  • Bubbles. Sounds reasonable to me :biggrin:
  • No deal lost 400 - 160
    Revoke article 50 lost 293 - 184
    Another referendum lost 295 - 268

    The closest was leaving the EU but staying in the Customs Union which lost 264 - 272.

    It's a compromise that doesn't make the Remainers or the Breiteers happy so that's what we'll probably end up with.
  • Today Bercow announced that the "Customs Union" vote was actually 265 to 271 not 264 t0 272.

    Staying in the Customs Union would solve the Irish border problem. All they need to do is convince 7 of the 114 MPs who abstained and we could actually have a workable Brexit.
  • Staying in the customs union isn’t brexit though
  • thorn

    Rather, it's not your idea of Brexit.
  • Its a 51.89% Brexit.

  • Is this MPs being told what to vote,,,
    Or :wahoo: doing what thtey thought was right with free mind?
  • Labour MPs were "whipped" to vote for two of the amendments, 27 of them ignored the whip and voted against. Both amendments were rejected.

    The other six votes were free including Ken Clarke's Customs Union amendment.
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