Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Categories
- 1.5K All Categories
- 1 Site Stuff
- 31 Admin (FAQs, rules, queries etc.)
- The Boleyn Arms
- 34 General Chatter
- 7 Member info & Family Album
- 3 Radio Llama (music videos)
- 415 Fun & Games
- 111 BA Predictor Threads
- 34 Word Games
- 4 Quizzes
- 2 Pun Threads
- 299 Magic Minutes
- 3 Other Fun & Games
- 117 Current West Ham
- 200 Men's First Team
- 3 Women's Team
- 12 PL2 & Academy
- 32 Management & Board
- 15 Stadium & Training Ground
- 27 West Ham Miscellaneous
- West Ham Matches
- 401 Match Threads
- 72 MOTM
- 9 West Ham Nostalgia
- 35 Former Players and Staff
- 4 Past Games & Glories
- 37 Transfers
- 46 Transfer Speculation
- 87 Completed Transfers
- 55 Internationals
- 48 Men's Internationals
- 5 Women's Internationals
- 2 Youth Internationals
- 121 Football Chatter
- 43 Football Chatter
- 270 Other Teams & Matches
- 26 Other Players & Staff
Comments
You don't believe that Aaron Banks and Leave.eu did what was alleged?
Are you saying that Channel 4 made up the evidence?
(I'm assuming you took the trouble to watch the video.)
(Out of curiosity, did you watch he programme? I haven't, but have read various reviews, so I'm aware of some of the content and some of the controversy).
Happy Easter :champagne:
I would have thought those who claim an interest in the state of democracy in the UK would be seriously concerned by such reports.
But seriously, this never happened.
it was Brexiters who urged voters to use a pen (based on a conspiracy theory).
Nobody said voters should use pencil.
Voting booths traditionally provide pencils to use, but voters have always been able to use their own pen, pencil or, indeed, crayon.
Remainers absolutely didn't ever urge voters to use any particular implement.
#fakenews
About being asked to use a pencil!!
"Britain is slowly starting to face up to its true status in the world, as a sort of tramp's liver that the European body is rejecting".
A year later they only got 12.6% (a distant third behind Labour 30.4% and the Tories 36.8%).
The turnout for the Euro Elections has never been higher than 38.5%, in 1999 it was as low as 24%. They're not much of a guide to what the country is thinking. Okay details. Who asked your wife to use a pencil? Where? When?
Some people was handing out flyers
Stating use a pencil
The police was called and some them had helpthe police with there inquires,,,I was told it’s Civil matter not criminal matter.
I kept one flyers I used it as book marker,,
Don't understand how it could be a civil matter as that would be someone suing someone else for damages so nothing to do with the police. If they were breaking the laws covering elections then that's criminal and it would have been a police matter.
However, in the absence of any evidence, I haven't changed my view on 'pencilgate'.
It's a baseless conspiracy theory.
Having said that, for anyone who believes such a fraudulent scheme is plausible, can you be sure that LEAVE didn't carry out such a fraud?
Qualitative comments described how this could include displaying campaign posters, or handing out leaflets close to polling stations. It is important to note that this is often a matter of differences in perception, with what campaigners may see as legitimate campaign efforts seen differently by voters.
Yet, in some instances cars were parked outside polling stations containing the campaign material. One CO said that they had ‘several instances of tellers having to be moved on due to their intimidation of the electorate.’ In another counting area:
We had one incident where a supporter of the exit campaign parked a car and the individual used a speaker to hail abuse at voters entering one polling station at [Location given]. Due to the attitude of the individual campaigning for exit Polling staff were advised to ring the Police but the incident passed before the Police arrived and it was not repeated.
Some COs reported, however, that the actions were often ‘”new” [campaigners] and were not familiar with the 'do's and don'ts'.’
67. When the affiliation of the agents involved in problems was cited by COs, they were all identified as leave campaigners.
As in the instance we are discussing the police were called and talked to the "agents" distributing leaflets then its fair to assume that the incident would have been recorded.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36411509
Anyone can make and print flyers
Stating “only use a pencil “
Even me !!!
I do a postal vote ,,, I herd you may have do it online?
Any way back pencilgate you only have to goggle it to find it’s not a one off.
Liverpool echo
Based on the fact it states that pencils are made available within all polling stations to be used.
So of course it's not a one off, every single polling station in the country has pencils for people to make their ballot paper for the reasons that it states in that article.
As moojor says, the article actually works against your argument.
The article also points out what I referred to earlier: you can use whatever implement you like, if you don't want to use the pencil provided in the booth.
It also makes clear the rules around sealing ballot boxes, and how these make fraud extremely difficult.
At the end of day,,, we have a vote.
Like it or not.
We will not be bullied or be bullied into anyone thinking,, With our freedom of speech or retaliation