Sounds like if Tories back the deal May will leave as PM
And presumably if they don't, she stays :hmm:
She's backed herself into a corner here. If she can't get her deal through even with the promise of stepping aside, surely she has to go anyway.
This just opens the door to posturing and positioning by the likes of Gove, Johnson and the purely coincidentally as-of-today more moderate Reece-Mogg, the thought of which makes my stomach turn.
Said of May following her speech to the 1922 Committee:
"She was passionate about getting the deal through, passionate about keeping the party together and passionate about keeping the government as the government, passionate about keeping Jeremy Corbyn out of Number 10."
Maybe because he’s thought long and hard about it and it’s what the majority of the people want, ie to leave, can’t think of any other reason off hand lol
Cuz, or it be that if the vote for her deal wins, she'll step aside and leave him in pole position for our new PM. Although I don't for one minute think that would be his motive. :biggrin:
All joking aside, which in itself is near impossible, Brexit is making the UK a laughing stock on the world stage. Whether we remain or leave I can't see that the UK will ever recover any semblance of respect that it once had. So, thanks, JR-M, the ERG, BoJo, Nigel "Public Enemy #1" Farage, and an extra special thanks to David Cameron, but not forgetting Liam "easiest deal in the world" Fox, David "if democracy can't change its mind, it's not democracy" Davis and all the rest that I can't be bothered to waste my time or energy in trying to remember the names of those who will be remembered by history as members of the worst UK government in modern times. It used to be thought that Italian politics wore the crown of the most dysfunctional - well that dubious headgear has moved 1400 kms north-west.
Calm down Bubbles, you`ll do yourself a mischief. Mays deal won`t pass, you`ll get your way, there will either be another referendum, or article 50 will get revoked. Hoping for the latter, looking forward to the EU elections either way, it will be carnage. :wahoo:
Oh, and the EU are 100% prepared for no deal, I assume they have the Irish border problem sorted. Can`t be that difficult. :wahoo:
Because our wonderful politicians don`t have the stomach for it. They have had three years to come up with a plan. One day before we are meant to leave, and the indicative votes show.......................................
:fence:
Lets carry on as we are. What could go wrong. We don`t make much of anything anymore, thank god we`re a nation of shopkeepers eh. I think the current system is failing the vast majority of people, I think the EU is a big part of the current system. I think "civilized" society is on a downward spiral, I would like to hope we could do something about that. Looks like the opportunity has passed though.
" Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth"
Madcap, or would you prefer "Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or a knife, and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot the owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination." :nonono:
Today Bercow announced that the "Customs Union" vote was actually 265 to 271 not 264 t0 272.
Staying in the Customs Union would solve the Irish border problem. All they need to do is convince 7 of the 114 MPs who abstained and we could actually have a workable Brexit.
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She's backed herself into a corner here. If she can't get her deal through even with the promise of stepping aside, surely she has to go anyway.
This just opens the door to posturing and positioning by the likes of Gove, Johnson and the purely coincidentally as-of-today more moderate Reece-Mogg, the thought of which makes my stomach turn.
"She was passionate about getting the deal through, passionate about keeping the party together and passionate about keeping the government as the government, passionate about keeping Jeremy Corbyn out of Number 10."
So yeah, priorities.
I wonder why that is :hmm:
Although I don't for one minute think that would be his motive. :biggrin:
So basically the resignation is off.
Boris :wave:
It all feels rather
Whether we remain or leave I can't see that the UK will ever recover any semblance of respect that it once had.
So, thanks, JR-M, the ERG, BoJo, Nigel "Public Enemy #1" Farage, and an extra special thanks to David Cameron, but not forgetting Liam "easiest deal in the world" Fox, David "if democracy can't change its mind, it's not democracy" Davis and all the rest that I can't be bothered to waste my time or energy in trying to remember the names of those who will be remembered by history as members of the worst UK government in modern times.
It used to be thought that Italian politics wore the crown of the most dysfunctional - well that dubious headgear has moved 1400 kms north-west.
Oh, and the EU are 100% prepared for no deal, I assume they have the Irish border problem sorted. Can`t be that difficult. :wahoo:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/47726847/has-brexit-changed-the-city-i-knew
Any reason for that?
:fence:
Lets carry on as we are. What could go wrong. We don`t make much of anything anymore, thank god we`re a nation of shopkeepers eh. I think the current system is failing the vast majority of people, I think the EU is a big part of the current system. I think "civilized" society is on a downward spiral, I would like to hope we could do something about that. Looks like the opportunity has passed though.
" Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth"
"Let every dirty, lousy tramp arm himself with a revolver or a knife, and lay in wait on the steps of the palaces of the rich and stab or shoot the owners as they come out. Let us kill them without mercy, and let it be a war of extermination."
:nonono:
Revoke article 50 lost 293 - 184
Another referendum lost 295 - 268
The closest was leaving the EU but staying in the Customs Union which lost 264 - 272.
It's a compromise that doesn't make the Remainers or the Breiteers happy so that's what we'll probably end up with.
Staying in the Customs Union would solve the Irish border problem. All they need to do is convince 7 of the 114 MPs who abstained and we could actually have a workable Brexit.
Rather, it's not your idea of Brexit.
Or :wahoo: doing what thtey thought was right with free mind?
The other six votes were free including Ken Clarke's Customs Union amendment.