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The Boleyn was great
becausewhen it was intimidating to the oppositionLooking at the stats ASLEF posted, it is clear that there were a lot of games in any given season where the opposition managed to come away with the points, so it is unreasonable, imo, to suggest that the Boleyn was a permanent fortress that teams hated to play at.
When the LS has been rocking, I haven't seen any issue with noise containment.
It might even be that the acoustics are better, but unless the fans turning up make the effort, it won't matter if they are as good as the Albert Hall.
The number of former players that didn’t like playing there is also testament to that, my cousin being one of them and he played at many PL grounds.
The chicken run was intimidating to suggest that the ground didn’t do that much over the last 25-30+ years is nonsense imo
Perhaps it’s just me, I was fortunate to do the most home games in a season in 85-86, pure luck that was and our best season In terms of losses and a bit of a fortress, many a night we got home with an inferior team on paper against the bigger boys
That’s not emotional, that’s just a fact and not one I’d dismiss as easily either.
You seem to be arguing against things no one has said.
You are free to be as sad over our departure from the Boleyn as you like. However, please also accept that others, who are also Hammers, may not share your feelings.
I would suggest that the times we were difficult to beat had more to do with the sides we put out, than the simple fact that we were playing at the Boleyn.
It isn't, imo, the ground that creates an atmosphere, but the fans.
As has been made clear by those who have been at the LS, on occasions it has rocked as much as the Boleyn ever did.
The common factor in the 'rocking'? Fans getting behind the team.
Someone who has been a couple of times thinks that emotion takes over and a lack of common sense is then the order of the day, quite disrespectful imo
That ground was intimidating for many to say it wasn’t or didn’t have that effect at any time in the last 30 is as I mentioned is nonsense, imo .I’ve got a family member a former PL player who is quoted on it, not sure why some appear to be in denial about it, it’s okay it’s doesnt take away from our current home
And these are the bits where I think you are arguing against what no one has said: I can't think of anyone who has said that (the ground wasn't ever intimidating), never mind many. Who is in denial about it? Who has suggested it has?
I don't think anyone has suggested that no one said it, or that it was never true.
;ok It's not immediately clear from the context. I'll add a bit in brackets.
Now, how the fans view the ground and how they act is a different story, again IMO, the Boylean was intimidating, when the fans wanted it to be, it was our home, our place.
There is 0 reason why the Olympic stadium can't be just as intimidating, if not more so, given the fact that there is 20k more of us in the place. There is no point clinging to what could be. The Boylean is gone, she has been knocked down, whether you believe you were sold a "lie" or not, we can't turn back the clock.
What we can do, is as supporters of the team, is turn up and make as much noise as possible.
Throughout our lives as adults, we buy and sell houses to improve and change our lot in life, maybe because we have a bigger family, maybe for schools or just because we like the new area. We remember fondly the places that come before, but that doesn't stop us loving the new place we go to.
Sometimes they were not.
It was always the same ground. So if it was something intrinsic to the ground, it would always have had the same effect. Which obviously it didn't, so it wasn't.
You could say that because the ground was smaller, the fans were closer to the pitch and this (when the fans were in the right frame of mind) could enhance the effect.
But as moojor says, at the OS you are massively increasing the number of fans.
So now, there are more fans to make a noise and so (when they are in the right frame of mind) the size of the stadium can enhance the intimidatory effect.
2 different stadia, one common factor: the fans.
Sorry guys all my fault...
Fortunately not!
At the same time I’m not saying that the LS can’t be intimidating it’s already shown in a few games that the noise levels are insane when it’s rocking, i really hope it’s more intimidating than the Boleyn over the years to come and hopefully we build many memories of it, of course it’s going to take time nearly all these moves do
;ok
With the numbers inside the LS it's obviously able to generate noise but I personally feel it's more like a general din, while the Boleyn created was more like a wall of noise.
There's no such thing as common sense, if there was we wouldn't disagree on anything