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Now, how the fans view the ground and how they act is a different story, again IMO, the Boylean was intimidating, when the fans wanted it to be, it was our home, our place.
There is 0 reason why the Olympic stadium can't be just as intimidating, if not more so, given the fact that there is 20k more of us in the place. There is no point clinging to what could be. The Boylean is gone, she has been knocked down, whether you believe you were sold a "lie" or not, we can't turn back the clock.
What we can do, is as supporters of the team, is turn up and make as much noise as possible.
Throughout our lives as adults, we buy and sell houses to improve and change our lot in life, maybe because we have a bigger family, maybe for schools or just because we like the new area. We remember fondly the places that come before, but that doesn't stop us loving the new place we go to.
Sometimes they were not.
It was always the same ground. So if it was something intrinsic to the ground, it would always have had the same effect. Which obviously it didn't, so it wasn't.
You could say that because the ground was smaller, the fans were closer to the pitch and this (when the fans were in the right frame of mind) could enhance the effect.
But as moojor says, at the OS you are massively increasing the number of fans.
So now, there are more fans to make a noise and so (when they are in the right frame of mind) the size of the stadium can enhance the intimidatory effect.
2 different stadia, one common factor: the fans.
Fortunately not!
At the same time I’m not saying that the LS can’t be intimidating it’s already shown in a few games that the noise levels are insane when it’s rocking, i really hope it’s more intimidating than the Boleyn over the years to come and hopefully we build many memories of it, of course it’s going to take time nearly all these moves do
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With the numbers inside the LS it's obviously able to generate noise but I personally feel it's more like a general din, while the Boleyn created was more like a wall of noise.
There's no such thing as common sense, if there was we wouldn't disagree on anything
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5139907/Bill-new-Tottenham-stadium-soars-1bn.html
Even if it came in on budget, you'd still want something half decent for 3/4 of a billion...
We’re going to have to make some changes to ours hopefully making it a better experience
Good news today, Brady has responded with a 5000 word letter to the RWHFAG and his some short term and long term changes to be made to the badge, stadium, heritage etc and has offered to meet them again on Wednesday.
That’s progress I’d say
I wouldn't like to think that a group of fans who shout loudest get to override what was a democratic decision already made.
People might get ideas ;wink
If eligible people didn't take the opportunity to vote, that's their choice.
But it's not acceptable to just ignore all those who cared enough to vote on the grounds that 'it wasn't representative' imo.
Even if you think the results of that poll should be set aside (for whatever reason), are you actually saying that if the club propose a new design, there shouldn't be a new poll? And that any new 'approval process' should be limited to the folks in the RWHFAG? The views of fans not in that group should be ignored, no, not ignored - never even solicited?
Won't that make any new choice even less 'democratic' than the current one based on an (in your opinion) unrepresentative consultation?
(Note: I'm not saying they can't bring forward a new design because lots of people voted for the old one.)
The club can’t be held responsible for the lack of response, I do think many WHU fans are kicking themselves that they didn’t make as much noise at the appropriate time
It’s good that the club are looking at it though, I can’t believe that RWHFAG would think this fell solely on them to decide what the new badge looks like if it does change again. From reading many comments on the subject it appears to me the badge design itself isn’t the major issue, it’s the word “London”
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At Oldham, the SAF comment came out around the time when he marked Mark Hughes out of the game for almost 120 minutes before losing him for a split second and he equalized in the FA cup semi final, then got trounced 4-1 in the replay
He had a groin and MUFC were reported to be interested, his injury put paid to that and they signed David May instead.
I am however a big fan of the group in creating a voice for supporters who feel they have been sold something as one thing and ended up with another, and I hope they are able to retain and grow support and provide that voice for years to come. I view it in a way similar to union representation in that the fans need a voice as a football fan is so much more than a customer who can take their custom elsewhere and if feeling treated badly need meaningful representation.
I would like to see meaningful supporter representation at boardroom level, someone to hold to account and if necessary ask for protest action. Without these aims being specifically asked for, as far as I know, this is happening as this group are holding to account a lot of stuff on which the move was sold to us on and the club appear to be in the first stages now of taking them seriously, something which just like a union wouldn't happen if the union had 100 members in a 5000 employee factory. There are some issues around the group not least this divisive term 'real' west ham fans, but I have confidence these things will get ironed out and hopefully a large inclusive group can be got behind by anyone who wishes, and a voice will indeed be permanently established.
This group has only come about since November and as far as I know the people responsible are not professionals in this field and so have done a pretty fantastic job of achieving what they have so far, to have expected not one foot wrong, a couple in hindsight mistakes to have not been made would be pretty unreasonable. I feel sure that when union representation began there would have been some who just cast those attempting to establish it as troublemakers etc, but once established all were benefitting.
Establish power and influence through numbers and then wield that power and influence with professionalism and respect without ever allowing the power to be abused.