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I was suggesting that your comment that the fans made it difficult for visitors at Upton Park was only half the story. Sometimes they made it difficult for our own players.
So, the 'tough atmosphere' for visiting players is a feature of the crowd, and not a feature of the ground itself, imo.
Why should they - they are playing away. There is much more bound up in playing well at home.
I think a lack of investment in strong and pacey players cost us dear changing stadium, and this season. I hope Moyes addresses this in the summer.
Our record in the top flight at the Boleyn
58/59 W15 D3 L3 6th, lost to Birmingham (9th), Leicester (19th) and Leeds (15th)
59/60 W12 D3 L6
60/61 W12 D4 L5
61/62 W11 D6 L4
62/63 W8 D6 L7
63/64 W8 D7 L6
64/65 W14 D2 L5
65/66 W12 D5 L4
66/67 W8 D6 L7
67/68 W8 D5 L8
68/69 W10 D8 L3 8th, lost to Everton (3rd), Ipswich (12th) and Arsenal (4th)
69/70 W8 D8 L5
70/71 W6 D8 L7
71/72 W10 D6 L5
72/73 W12 D5 L4
73/74 W7 D7 L7
74/75 W10 D6 L5
75/76 W10 D5 L6
76/77 W9 D6 L6
77/78 W8 D6 L7
81/82 W9 D10 L2 9th, lost to Arsenal (5th), Forest (12th)
82/83 W13 D3 L5
83/84 W10 D4 L7
84/85 W7 D8 L6
85/86 W17 D2 L2 3rd, lost to Luton (9th) and Chelsea (6th)
86/87 W10 D4 L7
Average W10.2 D5.5 L5.3
87/88 W6 D9 L5 Div 1 reduced to 21 teams
88/89 W3 D6 L10 reduced to 20
91/92 W6 D6 L9 back up to 22 teams
93/94 W6 D7 L8
94/95 W9 D6 L6
95/96 W9 D5 L5 back down to 20 teams again
96/97 W7 D6 L6
97/98 W13 D4 L2 8th, lost to Newcastle (15th) and Southampton (12th)
98/99 W11 D3 L5
99/00 W11 D5 L3 9th, Man U (1st), Everton (13th) and Boro (12th)
00/01 W6 D6 L7
01/02 W12 D4 L3 7th under Roeder!!!! Fulham (13th), Spurs (9th) and Man U (3rd)
02/03 W5 D7 L7
05/06 W9 D3 L7
06/07 W8 D2 L9
07/08 W7 D7 L5
08/09 W9 D2 L8
09/10 W7 D5 L7
10/11 W5 D5 L9
12/13 W9 D6 L4
13/14 W7 D3 L9
14/15 W9 D4 L6
15/16 W9 D7 L3
A bit of a mixture........
Last season it was w7 d4 l8
Look about average to me. A lot of this is not facts but emotions. And once people get emotional then common sense stops working.
Yet theses posts continued so we’ve edited them and pm’d the poster’s. Repeatedly.
The message is still not getting through.
So.
Posts containing personal comments will just get deleted and I won’t be informing anyone by pm.
The Boleyn was great
becausewhen it was intimidating to the oppositionLooking at the stats ASLEF posted, it is clear that there were a lot of games in any given season where the opposition managed to come away with the points, so it is unreasonable, imo, to suggest that the Boleyn was a permanent fortress that teams hated to play at.
When the LS has been rocking, I haven't seen any issue with noise containment.
It might even be that the acoustics are better, but unless the fans turning up make the effort, it won't matter if they are as good as the Albert Hall.
The number of former players that didn’t like playing there is also testament to that, my cousin being one of them and he played at many PL grounds.
The chicken run was intimidating to suggest that the ground didn’t do that much over the last 25-30+ years is nonsense imo
Perhaps it’s just me, I was fortunate to do the most home games in a season in 85-86, pure luck that was and our best season In terms of losses and a bit of a fortress, many a night we got home with an inferior team on paper against the bigger boys
That’s not emotional, that’s just a fact and not one I’d dismiss as easily either.
You seem to be arguing against things no one has said.
You are free to be as sad over our departure from the Boleyn as you like. However, please also accept that others, who are also Hammers, may not share your feelings.
I would suggest that the times we were difficult to beat had more to do with the sides we put out, than the simple fact that we were playing at the Boleyn.
It isn't, imo, the ground that creates an atmosphere, but the fans.
As has been made clear by those who have been at the LS, on occasions it has rocked as much as the Boleyn ever did.
The common factor in the 'rocking'? Fans getting behind the team.
Someone who has been a couple of times thinks that emotion takes over and a lack of common sense is then the order of the day, quite disrespectful imo
That ground was intimidating for many to say it wasn’t or didn’t have that effect at any time in the last 30 is as I mentioned is nonsense, imo .I’ve got a family member a former PL player who is quoted on it, not sure why some appear to be in denial about it, it’s okay it’s doesnt take away from our current home
And these are the bits where I think you are arguing against what no one has said: I can't think of anyone who has said that (the ground wasn't ever intimidating), never mind many. Who is in denial about it? Who has suggested it has?
I don't think anyone has suggested that no one said it, or that it was never true.