Academy and Development Squad Developments 2017-18

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  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    ;wahoo
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Westley on Nathan Holland:

    "Holland was very hood first half. I mean, wow, he might be one of the best we've ever made... He's going to go such a long way."

    Sounds promising. ;clap
  • Moore_than_a_nickMoore_than_a_nick
    TwistAndShout said:

    Westley on Nathan Holland:

    "Holland was very hood first half. I mean, wow, he might be one of the best we've ever made... He's going to go such a long way."

    Sounds promising. ;clap

    From what I've seen, he is indeed very promising. But it's a bit rich of Westley to say "we've made" him, since he joined Everton's academy at age 9 and was there until January 2017, when we signed him, aged 18!
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Moore_than

    Perhaps he meant 'signings'?
  • Moore_than_a_nickMoore_than_a_nick
    edited May 2017
    Yes, I think you're right. Good spot. If I'm honest my interpretation was probably coloured by being rather protective of Tony Carr's record!

    While I can't find any context to the line quoted, one story that suggests Westley claims Holland is one of the best to have come up through the West Ham youth ranks (http://www.footballinsider247.com/one-best-ever-made-west-ham-coach-raves-18-year-old/) seems to base their story on just the quotation from an article (http://www.football.london/west-ham-united-fc/players/nathan-holland-might-west-hams-13008563) that makes it clear in their headline that Westley was referring to one of the best signings.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Currently behind in play off final.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Newcastle take the lead from corner. The inability to defend corners seems to run through the entire Club. ;doh
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    We can't always defend our own corners let alone the oppositions
  • HamstewHamstew
    Martinez scores to make it 1 - 1
  • HamstewHamstew
    Still annoys me we play Calleri constantly and send him out on loan.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    2-1 up now Martinez again.
  • HamstewHamstew
    They've done it ;clap
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    ;clap
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    ;scarf
  • stevesteve
    ;wahoo
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Play them all on Sunday ;wahoo
  • HamstewHamstew
    Martinez needs to learn how to fly and shoot loganberries from his nipples before he gets a chance.
  • alderzalderz
    I'm fairly sure that Martinez can't play because his loan was "to the end of the season", which makes him ineligible for us.

    Also, yes, he has potential, BUT if there was another player in League Two who had scored 1 goal in 15 appearances we would be unlikely to be saying that he is someone we want in our first team.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    alderz, I wish I could 'like' your post more than once.
  • HamstewHamstew
    Kind of expected someone to say something like this and yes that’s fair enough. However although he hasn’t scored that many goals his overall performance have been good apparently. Also no one can tell me that League one football is anything like Premiership football. Same goes for Cullen. All I’m saying is the boy should get a chance. The same chance Calleri is getting for whatever reason.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Team Ham on this one. We've nothing to lose and I don't think Martinez can be any worse than Calleri. Nothing riding on Sunday other than a few million quid so what better time to give Rice, Holland and Martinez some first team experience.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Martinez can't play and Holland was subbed off injured last night.
  • HamstewHamstew
    ;ok unfortunately though as Alderz says I don't think he is able to play due to his loan. Shouldn't have gone out in the first place maybe.
  • alderzalderz
    I'm not saying he SHOULDNT get a chance, I'm just saying he hasn't done anything to suggest that Slav has made an error in not giving him a chance already.

    I think he will be a better player for his loan spell, and I hope he shows in preseason that maybe we don't need to buy 3 new strikers and he can take the space of one of those.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Does that apply to Samuelsen too, then? ;hmm
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited May 2017
    The error in my opinion was to send the boy out on loan when we had a striker crisis meaning we had to play Calleri and trying to buy players like Scott Hogan
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Big step up for kids, the development squad isn't close to competitive football and the loan probably did him a world of good

    He has preseason to impress, it's on him to show he's at the level of our current crop and he can do it against premier league defenders not other kids
  • HamstewHamstew
    But there are other kids in the prem.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Saying he is not ready and should not be given a chance because his goals record at his loan club is not great is a bit of kop out IMO. How do we know how much service he had, for example, at his loan club.
  • alderzalderz
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Does that apply to Samuelsen too, then? ;hmm

    Yeah it does. To me, Samuelsen is very far from being ready. Not being able to make an impact at either Peterborough or Blackburn this season isn't a good sign, IMO.
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