Academy and Development Squad Developments 2017-18

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Wigan have just sacked their manager.
  • alderzalderz
    I think that makes it even less likely that Browne & Burke will get many minutes. Anyone coming in will be wanting to plan for next season
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    MrsG, so it's not all bad news then. ;biggrin
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Drew 0-0 at St James's Park tonight. Masuaku got sent off after 30 mins ;doh

    Browne returned from Wigan to play.

    Fernandes + Fletcher also played
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Not sure the source but I just saw this on twitter..

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Interesting.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited March 2017
    More worrying than interesting if true. We've often wondered what we do in training so the answer may be very little.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    But I've seen many times managers/U23 coaches saying youth players need to get out an experience what it is like when you are training for matches where it is your livelihood - the emotion and intensity is different.

    So that comment doesn't seem to contradict what club bosses say - it's why they send players out on loan, in part.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    But he was in our first team squad and included in some match squads.
  • alderzalderz
    I noticed that Brighton's captain, Bruno, was quoted on the gossip column on BBC today as saying that the Premier League will be "less physical" if they get promoted. The intensity of the Championship is often higher than what you see in the Premier League, so it makes sense for the training to match.

    We know very little about what we do in training, but that isn't unusual for our club compared to others.
  • MoojorMoojor
    But what are they comparing between the training? If he is training with Readings first team squad and comparing it to the training with the development squad at West Ham it would probably be more intense.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Oxford trains with the first team though doesn't he?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Not sure. Only some of the time?
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Either way answers why he hasn't been playing while on loan, which has been a topic on conversation.

    So we should draw a line and judge his loan spell from now.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    bbb, too many gaps in that line of defence. ;biggrin
  • alderzalderz
    As we come toward the end of the season, I was just thinking over who might be in contention for our Young Hammer of the Year award.

    Recent winners:

    2015/16 - Reece Oxford - 17yrs - 12 apps
    2014/15 - Reece Burke - 18yrs - 6 apps
    2013/14 - Sam Howes - 16yrs - 0 apps
    2012/13 - George Moncur - 19yrs - 1 app
    2011/12 - Dan Potts - 18yrs - 4 apps
    2010/11 - Freddie Sears - 21yrs - 15 apps, 2 goals
    2009/10 - Zavon Hines - 21yrs - 15 apps, 2 goals
    2008/09 - Jack Collison - 20yrs - 24 apps, 3 goals
    2007/08 - James Tomkins - 19yrs - 6 apps

    Looking at the list above, and taking into account their ages and appearances during the season in which they won, here are the main candidates for this season (age listed is age they will be at the time):

    Ashley Fletcher - 21yrs - 17 apps, 1 goal
    Edimilson Fernandes - 21yrs - 22 apps, 1 goal
    Sam Byram - 23yrs - 14 apps
    Reece Oxford - 18yrs - 2 apps
    Domingos Quina - 17yrs - 2 apps
    Marcus Browne - 19yrs - 1 app
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    No Josh Cullen?
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Was going to say Josh Cullen too Mrs G.

    Declan Rice in with a shout too, now captains the dev squad
  • alderzalderz
    I didn't include Josh Cullen on the basis that he has made 0 first team appearances whereas Oxford, Quina & Browne all have.

    I think the most likely is Ashley Fletcher, tbh.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    From that list it would be Fernandes for me but it must include the Development Squad members.
  • AdamAdam
    Toni Martinez?
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I think Twist has called it. My money's on Declan Rice
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    I'd go for Declan Rice, as there is no stand out player who has featured within the 1st team and shone. Rice has made huge progress this season; from featuring regularly in pre-season with the 1st team, to being an integral member of the U23's, becoming captain at very young age and signing a new deal at the club.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    What about the Dylan Tombides Award for the younger players - did it used to be called 'academy player of the year'?
  • alderzalderz
    MrsGrey ;ok

    That's where I see the academy & development players being the prime candidates. I think looking at the history of the YHOTY it is likely that someone with first team appearances will win, tbh.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Reece Oxford got 20 minutes at the end of Reading's win over Leeds at the weekend (third time in a row he's made it onto the pitch) and got his head stamped on.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Reece Oxford got 20 minutes at the end of Reading's win over Leeds at the weekend (third time in a row he's made it onto the pitch) and got his head stamped on.

    Maybe that's what Stam meant by not being up to speed in training.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    The stamper is being charged with violent conduct by the FA.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    6 match ban.

    #dirtylids
  • alderzalderz
    Josh Cullen 21 today ;ok
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