I won't stand for this - The thread all about standing at the OS.

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  • edited September 2016
    Mrs G,

    DS/DG makes it clear in this article - http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/west-ham-forced-to-limit-london-stadium-capacity-to-57000-for-bournemouth-game-over-standing-fears-a3322336.html that the licensing for the stadium is all seating.

    Joint-Chairmen David Sullivan and David Gold added: “We understand the traditions of football and that many supporters like to stand, but the reality is that the license is for all-seating. Therefore, we urge our supporters to watch the game from their seats."

    KB from same article: “The LSSAG have identified that standing in an all-seater stadium is dangerous and that we must continue to communicate this to our supporters.”

    Now if that is the case why should it not apply to any other event held there, I would suggest that at a concert or other event where the crowd is in some sort of semi darkness or low light, the risk and danger would be greater. If it does only apply to football then it is discrimination - if it was down to the PL rules then I am sure the club would have to provide the stewards etc. to police it.

    It's not like you are going to get a crowd surge at a football match any longer with a row of seats in front of you - not like there used to be, although there have been some instances where there has been a sideways movement to get away from trouble etc.
  • This just dropped into my inbox.


    Dear Supporter Advisory Board Member,
    As you are aware, we are currently in the process of setting up a new format for our Supporter Advisory board, which you are welcome and encouraged to apply for if you wish to enter the selection process.
    As an active member of the 2015/16 season SAB, that was so instrumental across key aspects of our move to Stratford, we would very much like to hear your views on the matchday experience at London Stadium so far this season.
    We acknowledge that there have been some bedding-in issues occurring in the early stages of this season – and are identifying those issues that we believe can be worked on by Club and fans together in order to help everybody successfully settle into the new ground. We are therefore eager to speak to a sample group of SAB members such as yourself who can offer us a cross-sectional insight into the stadium experience, so we can continue improving matchdays for all our fans.
    If you would like, and are able to attend a meeting at London Stadium, on Tuesday 20th September at 6.30pm to discuss your views on the matchday experience at London Stadium so far this season, please notify us of your interest as soon as possible.
    Please include details of what matches you have attended at London Stadium this season - and whether you have used your regular Season Ticket seat or sat in other parts of the ground. If you have attended matches in other parts of the ground, please provide details as to where, including stand, tier and block.
    We will then select a representative sample of SAB members from across all areas of the stadium. Should you be selected as part of the sample group, we will be sure to contact you.
    Your insight will, as ever, be invaluable in helping us to continue to improving our stadium experience and the Club as a whole.
    Best wishes,
  • edited September 2016
    A positive move hopefully tell them how it is Suz ;thumbsup
  • If any one who has been to a game has something they think the club should know - please let me know and I will pass it on.
  • I saw a tweet, that the user was furious that the club sold popcorn and left at half time.

    Hope this helps

    ;biggrin
  • Who knew popcorn could get people so worked up. I can take it or leave it, myself.
  • I think this geezer was miffed as they only did salted.
  • If they were so indignant why did they wait until half time? ;hmm
  • Maybe they thought there might be some trailors on the big screen
  • So helpful... ;doh


    ;biggrin
  • I know I know

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  • Romaine10 said:

    I think this geezer was miffed as they only did salted.

    I see what you did there ;cool
  • I have seen two instances of people taking booze into the stands and then being caught out by stewards when drinking it . It all ended up with people having to go downstairs to drink it and then coming back ten minutes later. I think a few signs saying no booze past this point , there might be some but I don't remember seeing them and stewards stopping people before they sit down
  • edited September 2016
    plf

    They have stewards doing that (supposedly) because wasn't that what the ex-UP steward whose twitter thing complaining about current stewards said she had to do?

    http://www.claretandhugh.info/chief-steward-blows-whistle/ that was posted up a few pages back.

    (maybe they need more. )
  • They were very hot on this for the Juve game but not so lately.
  • The Met have said they will not be in the stadium for the next game unless there is criminal activity in progress. Apparently there is no radio infrastructure in place in the stadium.
  • That's true. I work for the company that does it. It was removed after the Olympics. The Police would need to put in a special order for temporary coverage and the lead times are fairly long.
  • eski,

    The Met said they told the stadium owners in 2014 about this. They came back and said it is now 80% installed and they expect to have it complete for the first Cat 'C' game which is Arsenal on December 3rd. ;ok
  • One more game with trouble and I can see us playing games behind closed doors until they sort this.
  • I heard they are making segregation between the away end and home supporters larger. But the other big problem is the inside fighting between hammers fans and "sitting" vs "standing" debacle / protest. Whatever you want to label it as.
  • IronHerb said:

    eski,

    The Met said they told the stadium owners in 2014 about this. They came back and said it is now 80% installed and they expect to have it complete for the first Cat 'C' game which is Arsenal on December 3rd. ;ok

    Ok, so the order isn't through the Police, it's through the stadium owners? Who is that? I can check the status of it ;wink
  • I think the 'in fighting' has taken us all by surprise, especially the club and landlords.
    There was a bit of a rebuke to the club when LS185 said that ticketing is the cause of some of the problems such as the stand/sit in fighting

    The two/three seat separation between home and away fans is nonsense. It was around 10 seat separation in the STB lower at the Boleyn so how that was missed is poor. Fans taking alcohol into the seating area has been illegal since all seater came in so is another poor oversight.
  • I think the 10 seats shouldn't be necessary and people should stop acting like Neanderthals.
  • I also think it is important to keep things in perspective: over 270 000 people have been to games at the stadium so far and how many have been involved in fisticuffs?

    It is a tiny %.
  • But supposedly they have been banned ? so if it kicks off again against Accrington / Southampton then something is happening inside the stadium enough that even after banning multiple people it still happens.
  • Oh! It's ok then.
  • edited September 2016

    But supposedly they have been banned ? so if it kicks off again against Accrington / Southampton then something is happening inside the stadium enough that even after banning multiple people it still happens.

    I don't really get what you are saying.

    Are you saying ALL the people who have been causing problems have been banned? Because I don't think that's the case.

    And even if that were so, there will be 'new' people going to future games that wouldn't have been at previous ones.

    ;puzzled
  • then what is the case ? they have banned a select few that's daft then, surely its a policy if fighting happens you get banned end of story. If they haven't all being banned then there is definite failings in the stewardship and management of the stadium CCTV E.T.C.

    I don't believe either that suddenly at Accrington and Southampton we will have a host of new people that will suddenly kick off and start a rumble. Considering there are how many season ticket holders?
  • Police no longer cover inside arenas, stadia etc. They Police the streets outside based on intel received. They will only enter stadium if requested by owners if a crime is in progress or other life threatening event. To have Police inside grounds now has to paid for by the organiser/owner etc, not the public and requested months in advance. When I first went to Police Watford, a cat C match was 300plus officers and about 8 dogs...B 180-230, and A 100-150..thhere was occasionally trouble but there enough of us to deal with it...dogs are best ... I saw 5 dogs and handlers see off 400 gooners at Watford....no one wants to get bitten..and they dont recognise uniforms, best place to be is behind the dog!
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