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It's also (and arguably more importantly) about the experience for the fans.
And, for me at least, Upton Park and the Green Street walk were a thousand times better than the Stratford experience.
Absolutely brilliant. And it's all true ;cool
over 30 years I’m eternally grateful to of spent many many happy times in that stadium, our home and on plenty of occassion it was a 12th man, especially on some of those famous night games.
In my lifetime it has never, even been a fortress. Yes, it would come alive in big games, especially at night, and it would be a special place to be.
But I went to over 150 games at Upton Park myself, and for every tremendous performance there were two average and one terrible. I’ve seen sour atmospheres and sat in silent crowds and watched us be humiliated at home by Wolves or Bolton or thrashed by big teams.
The bigger issue is one of sentiment rather than form now, IMO, as at the LS I think we are muddling along like we were in any other PL season at UP. We’ve had some big performances and big atmospheres in the new stadium already.
IMO it will take 10 years before it feels like home, for a lot of the kinks to be worked out and memories built. I’ve just accepted that. I don’t think it’s the end of the world, really.
It's a mixture of things, all of which would probably be accepted by itself but a new stadium takes time to feel like home. Only once have I seen a new stadium be accepted right away and becoming a place where results come even in the first season. But that was an ice hockey stadium that fits 2500 or so, so not comparable.
If the results were there, I doubt people would give the stadium such grief. True, opposition fans seem to mention it kn every opposition view on kumb but then again they often are on the losing side and will use any stick to belittle us.
And yes in my life time it has been a fortress on occassion.
I accept the LS was never going to do it overnight but whatever happens, I will never forget or dismiss the times had in the Boleyn a truly iconic English football ground
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Like any ground, when the home fans were rocking, the opposition would have found it a bit harder, but equally, they knew that getting an early goal could turn the crowd in a heartbeat.
I'd say it is up to the fans who go to the LS to decide how much atmosphere they are interested in creating.
Clearly, there have already been some games there which have seen the place rocking, so it's not like there is something inherent in the stadium that prevents an atmosphere from being generated.
The LS can and has ‘rocked’ when the fans have wanted. You can’t blame the ground for a poor atmosphere, that’s on us.
It only takes one bonds tackle
Brooking pass
Devonshire’s run
Pop pops one in
I was suggesting that your comment that the fans made it difficult for visitors at Upton Park was only half the story. Sometimes they made it difficult for our own players.
So, the 'tough atmosphere' for visiting players is a feature of the crowd, and not a feature of the ground itself, imo.
Why should they - they are playing away. There is much more bound up in playing well at home.
I think a lack of investment in strong and pacey players cost us dear changing stadium, and this season. I hope Moyes addresses this in the summer.
Our record in the top flight at the Boleyn
58/59 W15 D3 L3 6th, lost to Birmingham (9th), Leicester (19th) and Leeds (15th)
59/60 W12 D3 L6
60/61 W12 D4 L5
61/62 W11 D6 L4
62/63 W8 D6 L7
63/64 W8 D7 L6
64/65 W14 D2 L5
65/66 W12 D5 L4
66/67 W8 D6 L7
67/68 W8 D5 L8
68/69 W10 D8 L3 8th, lost to Everton (3rd), Ipswich (12th) and Arsenal (4th)
69/70 W8 D8 L5
70/71 W6 D8 L7
71/72 W10 D6 L5
72/73 W12 D5 L4
73/74 W7 D7 L7
74/75 W10 D6 L5
75/76 W10 D5 L6
76/77 W9 D6 L6
77/78 W8 D6 L7
81/82 W9 D10 L2 9th, lost to Arsenal (5th), Forest (12th)
82/83 W13 D3 L5
83/84 W10 D4 L7
84/85 W7 D8 L6
85/86 W17 D2 L2 3rd, lost to Luton (9th) and Chelsea (6th)
86/87 W10 D4 L7
Average W10.2 D5.5 L5.3
87/88 W6 D9 L5 Div 1 reduced to 21 teams
88/89 W3 D6 L10 reduced to 20
91/92 W6 D6 L9 back up to 22 teams
93/94 W6 D7 L8
94/95 W9 D6 L6
95/96 W9 D5 L5 back down to 20 teams again
96/97 W7 D6 L6
97/98 W13 D4 L2 8th, lost to Newcastle (15th) and Southampton (12th)
98/99 W11 D3 L5
99/00 W11 D5 L3 9th, Man U (1st), Everton (13th) and Boro (12th)
00/01 W6 D6 L7
01/02 W12 D4 L3 7th under Roeder!!!! Fulham (13th), Spurs (9th) and Man U (3rd)
02/03 W5 D7 L7
05/06 W9 D3 L7
06/07 W8 D2 L9
07/08 W7 D7 L5
08/09 W9 D2 L8
09/10 W7 D5 L7
10/11 W5 D5 L9
12/13 W9 D6 L4
13/14 W7 D3 L9
14/15 W9 D4 L6
15/16 W9 D7 L3
A bit of a mixture........
Last season it was w7 d4 l8
Look about average to me. A lot of this is not facts but emotions. And once people get emotional then common sense stops working.
Yet theses posts continued so we’ve edited them and pm’d the poster’s. Repeatedly.
The message is still not getting through.
So.
Posts containing personal comments will just get deleted and I won’t be informing anyone by pm.