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The last goal is unbelievable ;wahoo
It's starting to irritate.
(sky sports quote from him with the original title regarding contact from Wenger)
A question of when he goes ;hmm Not if....
The fact he doesn't seem to know how many Arsenal scored shows he's not focussed.
Once we kept him, we had to match his ambition otherwise players like him get bored. Unfortunately we didn't in the transfer window, we petered out of Europe and haven't progressed in the cup. 13th at Xmas is not the sort of ambition he means.
He joined us for the project and now says he missing CL, if he expected CL this season then his was naive in the extreme.
I hope he stays but for me it looks like his head has been turned since the Euros.
But as along the "share of the cake" is nice big chunk maybe with a Cherry on and Frosting then thanks for your time.
We aren't lucky to have him - we signed him when no one else was interested.
We aren't lucky he stayed with us - he signed a whacking new, long-term contract less than 6 months into his first one.
We're the reason he was able to go to the Euros and showcase his undoubted talent.
I think this season we are seeing why bigger clubs weren't sure of him. He looks fine when things are going well, then hides and sulks when they aren't.
We're WHUFC not DPFC.
He doesn't run the club or our team.
If he wants to leave, he and his agent need to accept that he needs to meet our ambition - £100 million thanks.
Simples.
I even heard the most left field of Fellani / Smalling / Depay / Schneiderlin in exchange O_o
However, we still have it in our hands to have a successful season. We're 5 points off 7th, where we finished last season. We can make the best of a bad job and still push up the league. Nothing that Dimi says is a surprise. If a big, Champions league club comes in for any of our players, we'll lose them. It's not just unique to Payet.
I think a closer look at his stats will show this.
I'm going to go have a look.
If he does go we should make a serious bid for WBA's Matt Phillips
We aren't lucky to have him - we signed him when no one else was interested.
Agree. Although I'm sure there were other interested parties. Nothing I've read suggests we were the ONLY option.
We aren't lucky he stayed with us - he signed a whacking new, long-term contract less than 6 months into his first one.
We aren't lucky but he could've asked to leave and rejected the contract. So he believed in staying with us at the time, and why not, we were challenging for Champions League and still in FA cup.
We're the reason he was able to go to the Euros and showcase his undoubted talent.
Incorrect. He was the reason. Don't buy us having anything to do with it.
I think this season we are seeing why bigger clubs weren't sure of him. He looks fine when things are going well, then hides and sulks when they aren't.
Don't think he's sulked and hidden. He's just struggled for form like everybody else because the entire XI is underperforming.
We're WHUFC not DPFC.
Agree, but Dimi has been the spokesman for WHU over the past 12 months, mainly because the club generated and encouraged the Dimi love-fest.
He doesn't run the club or our team.
Agree. But when on form, pretty much all our play comes through him.
If he wants to leave, he and his agent need to accept that he needs to meet our ambition - £100 million thanks.
How can you quote £100m when saying what we see this season is why bigger clubs don't want him?
Simples.
There's a danger of slipping in to semantics.
Of course Dimi is the reason he went to the Euros, but he wasn't getting called up playing for Marseille.
We signed him, put him in a team that allowed him to shine, and he was picked. So, for me, West Ham get a chunk of the credit for his going to the Euros.
£100m is what Diddy Dave said last summer, and I hope the club stick to it.
My point, perhaps over-stated, is that he is a West Ham player, and the club are in the box seat when it comes to determining his future, as a result of his choice to sign that new contract.
I was trying to counter the suggestion I see in places that he is 'too good for us' and he 'deserves' to be playing for a 'bigger' team.
I have no argument with that.
That'll be £100m thank you.
Would you like a receipt?
Danger of semantics again. As you say, he wasn't the key figure he is now.
He wasn't in the squad for the 5 2015 games Sep-Nov.
I think it is fair to say that he wasn't in Deschamp's plans for the Euros.
I think it is fair to say that his performances for us gave him his chance to go to the Euros.
Others are free to think otherwise.
He signed up for a five year project. To bail after two because it isn't going how he expected it to is pretty poor, IMO.
Unless, of course, 'the project' is a synonym for 'stepping stone'.
We've been here before with the Dimi rumours, but this time his apparent lack of interest in games has fuelled the fires somewhat. I doubt he'll go in January, but fully expect him to be somewhere else for next season.
When Dimi signed a new 5.5 year deal in Jan/Feb, only six months after signing for us, it wasn't to commit his future to WHU, it was to secure a pay rise to a rumoured £125,000 a week.
The club can still keep him, same as we can still have a good season, but they have to pull out their money in Jan.
The club has every right to say you signed for 5 years therefore you honour that commitment. The problem then got a high calibre player like that is if he stops performing or throws his toys out the pram you see the potential sell on of 50/40/30m or whatever decrease in value to the point where you end up selling him for peanuts for a discontent player that you wasted 3 years on when you could have got 50m and reinvested it.
Clubs these days cant afford to watch value like that trickle its why the player ultimately holds the cards because either way they sign a new contract collecting a hefty wage over a few years, or the club go down the Principle route of you signed a contract and so on and watch 50m fall away.
You frequently refer to the club getting their money out.
I'm sorry, but I don't think your premise holds, i.e. that the club failed to get its money out in the summer.
They tried and had no great success.
They may well try again in January, but the idea that all it takes is money to get good players who will immediately settle into your side and perform is not supported by the evidence, of us and other clubs.
If he loses interest & gets dropped it's his problem.If other clubs start doing the same then we can collectively reduce the power of the agents who as far as I am concerned are the epitome of everything that is wrong with modern football.If you sign a contract you should honour it.
However from a club point of view we gave him a big contract last year and have a right to expect him to stay or at least a compromise in which he gives us another 18 months at which point we let him go reasonably. If he insists on leaving now it must be for proper money as otherwise that new contract meant nothing and we have just been paying him all that extra each week for nothing. If we sell him for 20m I will be disappointed.
In my view proper money would be 35m but the deal I would like if dreams did come true would be to swap him for Martial from Man Utd who is out of favour with Jose, give them Dimi and the 20m we save on Zsa Zsa. Not going to happen but worth at least a call.