Dimi Payet; the Epilogue

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  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited January 2017
    We could not have kept him though, could we Luke.

    I think the club made a stand but there is no point cutting offf your nose to spite your face.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
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  • LukerzLukerz
    This is the Sky who said agreement was miles away only yesterday?

    Bloke on KUMB said agreement was reached Friday and it's around £23m.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    If he does go and indeed for a figure well below £30m - I don't think you truly can say the club have made any sort of a stand. Dropping him and making him train with the reserves is not making a stand IMO. The definition of making a stand is what WBA did with Saido (IMO).

    All the Dave's have done is enter into intense haggling.

    I'm not knocking them because there are probably rights and wrongs whichever way they go with this. They are really between a rock and a hard place.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    After meeting with Marseille manager Rudi Garcia, reported Manchester United target Lassana Diarra has refused to play for the club this month. (L’Equipe)
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Shall we offer €2m? ;whistle
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited January 2017
    Simple fact was Payet was never going to play for us again, even if he apologised the fans and his teammates have turned on him

    So what do you do? Hold out for a £30mil bid that never arrives or gradually see his valuation fall (remember Tottenham bid close to £30mil for Berahino)

    I think we've been ripped off but it does us no good having a £80k a week player worth £25mil sitting in the u23s simple as

    Get him out the door and bring in Hogan, an English man who hopefully takes his big break with both hands like the championship quartet of Antonio, Cresswell, Randy and now even Byram have done
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Champo ;ok Great point re Berahino. Stoke's stance (stubbornness?) cost them, what, £10-15m?

    There was a part of me that wanted the club to let Payet rot on the sidelines for five years, but it wouldn't have been to the benefit of the club.

  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    edited January 2017
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    So what do you do? Hold out for a £30mil bid that never arrives or gradually see his valuation fall

    Yes.

    80k a week equates to roughly 4m a year. It's around half that until the next transfer window starts. Over the past few weeks I have read statements like "2m is peanuts in today's game" at regular intervals. So why not teach Payet a lesson, send a message to other players that if you break your contract you will suffer and take a stand. Let him train at Chadwell Heath, I very much doubt there will be much of a shadow over the club once the transfer window closes. It is the only reason why his name comes up every other day!
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But you haven't heard Sullivan saying £2m is peanuts have you?
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    No, or else we would never have offered Sunderland 3m for Defoe. ;doh

    Nevertheless the fees I have heard today are ridiculously low. OM will be laughing all the way back from the bank.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Champo ;ok Great point re Berahino. Stoke's stance (stubbornness?) cost them, what, £10-15m?

    There was a part of me that wanted the club to let Payet rot on the sidelines for five years, but it wouldn't have been to the benefit of the club.

    Did Saido get what he wanted though (his dream move to spurs)? No he didn't, he sat on the periphery for quite some time and then ended up at stoke.

    On the other hand, Payet has thrown his toys out of the pram and within a couple of weeks stands to get exactly what he wanted. As will OM
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I don't think any business can afford to have a £25m asset rotting away in the corner.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    No, but you don't sell an Aston Martin for five grand either.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2017
    baracks - exactly ;ok

    People tried to say the ball was in our court. We never even touched the ball.

    From the moment Payet decided he'd had enough of West Ham (whether that be now, next summer, last summer) he was going to leave and there was nothing the club could do, unless they wanted to take a massive financial hit. It's like when Slav and Sully said 2 weeks back 'he's not for sale, he's our best player and we want to keep our best players', who actually believed them?

    WBA were happy to. Was it wise? Probably not when they were being offered £25m not long ago.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I don't entirely disagree IH - it's a very tricky one - I wouldn't want to be in the Dave's shoes
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    MunichHammer said:

    No, but you don't sell an Aston Martin for five grand either.

    But if no one wants to buy it it's worthless.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Why pay £80k per week to train. He refused to play for the U23's too so it was right to get rid.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I'd like to see FIFA and UEFA find a way to punish this sort of conduct severely - e.g. banning from tournament finals (World Cup/euros) and/or the champions league.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    OS has confirmed the £25m fee agreed.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    I reckon OM will offer him 40 grand a week and he will have to take it.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited January 2017
    So, after all is said and done, we basically loaned Payet from Marseille for 18 months and they've paid us £15m for doing so ;thumbsup
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Or on the other hand we have just sold him for half a John stones or five sixths of a Troy deeney...
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    He's gone.

    We got some money.

    /End.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    IronHerb said:

    MunichHammer said:

    No, but you don't sell an Aston Martin for five grand either.

    But if no one wants to buy it it's worthless.
    No, it's not. It is worth whatever you say it is. It's like saying your house is worthless because nobody wants to buy it.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2017
    Just because somebody can't afford to buy something doesn't mean it's value is incorrect.

    Just means they can't afford it.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2017
    Marseille can afford to pay £30m. They've gone from £19m to £25m in a week and are paying him £100,000 a week. But the cards are in their favour as we only have 3 days to decide if we want him gone or risk holding out and he stays in the reserves.

    We've bulked, but it's difficult to know what else we could've done.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    But if no one will pay that price, what is the point of giving it that value?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Unfortunately we aren't a club that can afford to carry a player like Payet without playing him

    We've responded with 2 wins with an aggregate score of 6-1 since he left and we've brought in 2 experienced Premier league players since then so we've strengthened

    He's been useless for most of the season and without the ball we've been down to 10 men regularly so if we can get £25mil then good

    Despite all the rumours over the summer no-one actually tried to buy him because no one really wants him because of his age

    It's not worth the risk holding out putting money in his back pocket just I he can make the exact same move in 6 months time but at a lower value
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