Vorse, I do think though that he's hit the nail on the head:
He said: “West Ham’s 3-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace on Saturday showed they don’t need Dimitri Payet.
“When you have someone like Payet at West Ham you have a player that the other lads rely on.
“They look to him for a piece of magic that wins the game. They might shirk a little bit of responsibility.
“But dropping him from the squad galvanises the whole squad. Suddenly other players are stepping up and taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
“This is a team game and you can’t rely on just one individual.
“That result was massive for the club and the fans, but particularly for the players. They now believe they can go out and win convincingly without Payet in the team.”
I know that we are holding out for our price, but at the end of the day an asset is only worth what someone else is willing to pay, it is not as there are that many buyers out there.
He is not that young and I understand that we paid just over £10m for him just a couple of years ago - my vote would be to let him go.
Ince got photo'd in a Man Utd top before he went on holiday (knowing he'd be a Utd player). I dont think for a second it was his idea to have the photo taken (and there's no way he'd have done it if he believed it'd get shown before his move) and he got dogs abuse when the Express published it. IMO he didn't do anything deliberately to antagonize or disrespect the club. Hes a West Ham boy who had a great career. Im pretty sure if there was a disagree button I'd get a few for this. But, for me, Ince and Payet are not the same thing at all
Loaning him means we are the only party who don't get what we want. I see your point, but loaning him essentially means Marseille & Dimi cooked it all up and get their own way.
He hasn't refused to do his job. He "got a bit of a bad back". He's showing up for training. He's keeping his side of the deal -legally, if not honourably, and you can be sure it's the minimum needed to get paid -otherwise, he'd already be in Marseilles with his family.
My view is we should treat him as like a bad injury. If he broke his leg and was out the rest of the season he'd be unavailable and we'd be paying him.
I do wonder if this is beginning to impact our incomings ;hmm Did we assume we'd have £30m to play with by now? Fonte was a good (and necessary) signing, but with us seemingly unwilling to match Burnley's offer for Snodgrass and everything going quiet on the Hogan front, I'm starting we're waiting for the money that is currently tied up in Payet
People mention the 20m we didn't pay Juve for Zaza and we must have that, well that would've been installments.....
The books come out end of next month, all will be revealed, we lost between 5-10m last season, still have significant debt and owe SUGO 53m now most of it interest bearing (currently 9m rolled up).
We're effectively still skint. Once we get the extra 35m in TV money May 2018 along with extra ticket money taking our revenue to around 190M then we will start to see some changes in debt owed and players bought/money spent IMO
It was always a work in progress, some fans out there thought the minute we walked into the LS and then the transfer window opened we were suddenly "rich". (not necessarily on here I might add ;biggrin )
I don't blame us for not matching Burnley's bid, as I don't think Snodgrass is worth it (personally). The interview with the Brentford boss seems to suggest that the agent is holding up Hogan.
You could be right with that theory, but I reckon we'll have Hogan in before the City game
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He said: “West Ham’s 3-0 victory at home to Crystal Palace on Saturday showed they don’t need Dimitri Payet.
“When you have someone like Payet at West Ham you have a player that the other lads rely on.
“They look to him for a piece of magic that wins the game. They might shirk a little bit of responsibility.
“But dropping him from the squad galvanises the whole squad. Suddenly other players are stepping up and taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
“This is a team game and you can’t rely on just one individual.
“That result was massive for the club and the fans, but particularly for the players. They now believe they can go out and win convincingly without Payet in the team.”
Yes Paul. You would know about that.
He is not that young and I understand that we paid just over £10m for him just a couple of years ago - my vote would be to let him go.
That way the £20/30m can not be wasted this window!
They can't afford £30m now. They're currently the WBA of the French league. They might push to it in the summer and make him their marquee signing.
I can't believe for one moment that Dimi will be here come Feb.
By the time he's gone there'll only be a couple of days left of the window.
We can wait another 5 months.
If we can wait, then so can he, and so can they.
Loaning him means we are the only party who don't get what we want. I see your point, but loaning him essentially means Marseille & Dimi cooked it all up and get their own way.
The man has refused to do his job. Why would we be paying him?
My view is we should treat him as like a bad injury. If he broke his leg and was out the rest of the season he'd be unavailable and we'd be paying him.
Guess they won't be signing him then ;lol
Had Payet been sold already would we have Hogan now?
Yep it is, IMO
People mention the 20m we didn't pay Juve for Zaza and we must have that, well that would've been installments.....
The books come out end of next month, all will be revealed, we lost between 5-10m last season, still have significant debt and owe SUGO 53m now most of it interest bearing (currently 9m rolled up).
We're effectively still skint. Once we get the extra 35m in TV money May 2018 along with extra ticket money taking our revenue to around 190M then we will start to see some changes in debt owed and players bought/money spent IMO
It was always a work in progress, some fans out there thought the minute we walked into the LS and then the transfer window opened we were suddenly "rich". (not necessarily on here I might add ;biggrin )
I don't blame us for not matching Burnley's bid, as I don't think Snodgrass is worth it (personally). The interview with the Brentford boss seems to suggest that the agent is holding up Hogan.
You could be right with that theory, but I reckon we'll have Hogan in before the City game