We were (briefly) in Europe and the daves would have put decent offers to the likes of bats and bacca. Plus we had arguably one of the top providers of assists in the whole of Europe. Still neither wanted to come.
One of the biggest problems is we don't give any young home grown players some sort of a run in the side. Even when we are shockingly poor for a reasonable period of time. Even when we get hit with injuries. The answer seems to be to take other first team players and play them out of position. It's incredibly depressing to see. And it forces the daves to try and cover every position with external purchases when they themselves don't have limitless funds.
We padded out a squad with Europa League players, who we ended up not needing. The fact we spent nothing on them just shows the fact we weren't expecting to be long term residents in the competition going forwards.
Then we lost key first team players to injury and those Europa League players were thrown straight in at the deep end, and were shown to be either not good enough, not ready or a bit of both.
Funnily enough, I could see the likes of Tore, Nordtveit, Feghouli and Zaza contributing to a European adventure. The pace is slower, they're experienced in European football and it may have seen a different path for them all.
Add to that the house move, the training ground move and the Dimitri Payet saga, Slav has had a lot to deal with.
Mistakes have been made all round.
But it'll be an experience for the entire club to benefit from and I just hope that they retain Slav to show next season that he's a quick learner.
It really doesn't help that last season was a total freak of a season. Not just for us for the whole league.
Therefore the expectations and the whole "last season they had this many more points/wins etc" make it seem a whole lot worse than it is and it is pretty bad anyway!
We need to stick with 1 manager, he needs to be continually funded to build the squad that he wants and we need to make small but continual improvements.
IMO there is no massively logical argument in "sticking with a manager for a few years" at a club like ours if that manager does not have a clear proven strategy for developing and bringing younger home grown players into the first team and giving them chances
Also depends what team he is trying to mould. If Tore (someone he had being chasing since he joined) / Zaza / Feghouli / Calleri e.t.c were sanctioned purchases by Slaven then you have to question what team exactly he is trying to build that most of his summer signings have flopped and don't look like they will be here by the end of this Summer.
So how many managers have a 'clear proven strategy for developing and bringing younger home grown players into the first team and giving them chances'? I cant think of many. Ferguson was the last I think. ;hmm
There is loads of evidence out there that highlights the fact that changing managers regularly has no long term benefits, and that holding onto a manager has a better long term impact upon the team.
Yes, Tore was a mistake, clearly. However, Ferguson went after Veron, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, etc. All managers make misjudgements sometimes, and I would still weigh up the signings he has made in his favour rather than against. This is still the guy who signed Payet, Lanzini, Ogbonna, Antonio & Ayew.
In spite of his other struggles van gaal did at Man U
Southamptons managers seem to
Meanwhile at West Ham our youngest academy player playing reasonably regularly is noble
Pretty damning imo
Bilic has been here less than two seasons, if there are no players in the U23s good enough to warrant a starting place in the first team then its down to whoever has been responsible for recruiting youngsters and for the last three years that has been Terry Westley.
Ferguson had Trophy's and a mountain of money though so has more leeway. Slaven has neither and unlike Man Utd who is never really at risk of relegation at any point, West Ham are and have been a few times recently, so when transfers windows are bad... they really are bad and stick out a lot.
No doubt its not Slaven's sole fault that the player doesn't adapt or play to the standard they thought they signed them for. I don't think switching manager would be a good idea and giving Slaven another season makes sense, but imo he has to get it right this summer or he might end up on the scrap heap next summer. If the club want to push in a European direction say in the next 3 - 5 years. Then anything other than a top 10 finish should be considered a failure and that's what he will be judged on at the end of the day not on "injuries and whatever else that prevented him to get there."
Sorry he is insistent on playing completely out of position even when injuries and suspensions come into play. That doesn't send any sort of positive message at all.
Alderz, ayew a good signing?? For me the jury is still out.
Not saying chopping and changing is the way to go but insisting on keeping someone for a few years regardless is a flawed argument imo
He's a poacher and just what we've needed, 20m was probably too much but the Daves got it on the never never so nothing to worry about in the bigger scope of things
Oddly if he does come vaguely good I don't think £20m will be too much in today's market
Has anyone seen the number £40-£50m plus fees being banded about for players who aren't exactly household names??
Even £30m will be a massive deal for us. I worry as to what quality of player we can get even at that price. We will really have our work cut out this summer. Scary stuff indeed.
Also Inzaghi is Lazio to the core, over ten years as a player and he's been on the coaching staff since he hung up his boots. He's like a Romano John Lyall
Anyone know if Inzaghi's a mate of Di Canio? If so and he does come, we could have an interesting assistant manager, or a replacement for Dicks as club mascot...
(Having said that, doesn't look like a very believable story.)
Look on the bright side Mrs Grey, opinion presented as fact is a step in the right direction during these times when lies presented as fact are becoming increasingly common.
Note they haven't opened a comments section for that article and if you click on the journos name he writes an awful lot of articles about Spurs. A pre-match wind up?
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We were (briefly) in Europe and the daves would have put decent offers to the likes of bats and bacca. Plus we had arguably one of the top providers of assists in the whole of Europe. Still neither wanted to come.
Difficult season, he's made plenty of mistakes and our summer transfer activity was poor.
With a few tweaks here and there we can get back on track next season.
Just my opinion
;ok
Then we lost key first team players to injury and those Europa League players were thrown straight in at the deep end, and were shown to be either not good enough, not ready or a bit of both.
Funnily enough, I could see the likes of Tore, Nordtveit, Feghouli and Zaza contributing to a European adventure. The pace is slower, they're experienced in European football and it may have seen a different path for them all.
Add to that the house move, the training ground move and the Dimitri Payet saga, Slav has had a lot to deal with.
Mistakes have been made all round.
But it'll be an experience for the entire club to benefit from and I just hope that they retain Slav to show next season that he's a quick learner.
Therefore the expectations and the whole "last season they had this many more points/wins etc" make it seem a whole lot worse than it is and it is pretty bad anyway!
We need to stick with 1 manager, he needs to be continually funded to build the squad that he wants and we need to make small but continual improvements.
In spite of his other struggles van gaal did at Man U
Southamptons managers seem to
Meanwhile at West Ham our youngest academy player playing reasonably regularly is noble
Pretty damning imo
There is loads of evidence out there that highlights the fact that changing managers regularly has no long term benefits, and that holding onto a manager has a better long term impact upon the team.
Yes, Tore was a mistake, clearly. However, Ferguson went after Veron, Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, etc. All managers make misjudgements sometimes, and I would still weigh up the signings he has made in his favour rather than against. This is still the guy who signed Payet, Lanzini, Ogbonna, Antonio & Ayew.
No doubt its not Slaven's sole fault that the player doesn't adapt or play to the standard they thought they signed them for. I don't think switching manager would be a good idea and giving Slaven another season makes sense, but imo he has to get it right this summer or he might end up on the scrap heap next summer. If the club want to push in a European direction say in the next 3 - 5 years. Then anything other than a top 10 finish should be considered a failure and that's what he will be judged on at the end of the day not on "injuries and whatever else that prevented him to get there."
Alderz, ayew a good signing?? For me the jury is still out.
Not saying chopping and changing is the way to go but insisting on keeping someone for a few years regardless is a flawed argument imo
He's a poacher and just what we've needed, 20m was probably too much but the Daves got it on the never never so nothing to worry about in the bigger scope of things
Oddly if he does come vaguely good I don't think £20m will be too much in today's market
Has anyone seen the number £40-£50m plus fees being banded about for players who aren't exactly household names??
Even £30m will be a massive deal for us. I worry as to what quality of player we can get even at that price. We will really have our work cut out this summer. Scary stuff indeed.
(Having said that, doesn't look like a very believable story.)
Astonishing.
Entirely opinion, presented as fact.
What rubbish.
I thing Bilic is safe either way but it would help....
I think he has had a lot to deal with this season and has done so in a dignified and measured way.
Give him a Striker (Not Sturridge) and a RB and lets how he does.
I think his needed hip surgery may play a part.
Think SSN are just repeating the Grauniad thing.
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