Southampton ( Poch and Koeman for example ) seem to be good at picking managers. Can't we just ask them a favour or sneakily find our who they'd target if Puel left.... ;wink ;thumbsup
But I'm glad they've said it. Six points more, at any cost, should see us safe. Then we can forget this horror show of a season and (cautiously) look forward to the next one.
Mrs G & NWC, it's interesting that you call the article rubbish or beyond rubbish as it contains similar views to ones quoted on here in the past. Transfer policy being poor during last summer, Payet being let down by the aforementioned transfers & the way the board treat their managers. As usual I must have missed something! ;whistle
grey, look at the comment @ 7.42 today and the one above it. It's the article I provided a link to that is being called "rubbish". IMHO I don't think it is. ;ok
Nah still don't buy it Grey. We've seen that type of message many times before at other clubs who then go on to pull the trigger shortly afterwards and there's nothing so special about our club and it's media strategy to make me think we are any different
The only reason they have put this out imo is to try and get the players and coaching staff to focus and get us the 3-5 points to get through this season
grey, I can' t remember seeing many comments on here disagreeing with the belief that our transfer policy was dire last summer and that we don't treat our managers with much respect when it is due. The article I quoted made those same comments but it is said to be rubbish?
I haven't read the article, and don't feel any desire to.
However, if it claims our owners don't treat our managers with respect, I think that is rubbish.
And I don't think our transfer policy was dire at all.
The outcomes have clearly been, in general, far less successful than we would have hoped, but that is often the luck of the draw, and doesn't imo, reflect a dire policy.
Mrs G & NWC, it's interesting that you call the article rubbish or beyond rubbish as it contains similar views to ones quoted on here in the past. Transfer policy being poor during last summer, Payet being let down by the aforementioned transfers & the way the board treat their managers. As usual I must have missed something! ;whistle
Well, first of all, if I wanted to engage more fully with a view expressed on kumb, I'd ... erm ... go on to kumb and do so But I don't, so I didn't, so I'm not really minded to elaborate on my response with reasoned argument.
To the extent that opinions expressed by a poster on another forum are shared by, and have been expressed by, someone on here... I'd be more polite in indicating I disagreed.
I'm not going to go back through all my posts since last summer. But I guarantee that if anyone said we let Payet down through our transfer policy I would have indicated that I disagreed, either by posting such or clicking agree on someone else who did.
I can only recall horsham saying the board have a habit of undermining managers. And you'll notice that I responded, and disagreed. It's on the previous page of this thread. ;ok
Finally, my 'rubbish' was directed not only at the opinions expressed, but at the false facts, the poor argument, assertions without evidence, misrepresentations and lies.
I don't really get what the point of your comment was.
I'm glad everything in the West Ham Garden is rosy and I have nothing to worry about or vent my feelings on. I will just swallow my medicine and go back to expecting nothing more than a mid table finish each season and being told I shouldn't dream of anything more because that is what tradition tells us to expect. ;ok
I would be very surprised if Bilic goes before the end of the season, with only eight games left there's little time to bring in a replacement and for them to sort things out. Plus if he goes then Jurcevic, Terzic and Rak are likely to quit which would leave just Dicksy, Chris Woods and Terry Westley to hold the fort until the new bloke arrives.
You harp on about this 'tradition' - but again, no one has said anything like that.
What I have said, and seen similar comments from others, is that we are, de facto, a mid-table club, and that to go beyond that is an ambitious target which certainly won't be achieved in one or two seasons, if at all.
The first step to that dream, imo, is to become an Everton type club who are pretty much nailed on top 10-8 most seasons.
I don't think that will happen if we sack managers each time we have a poor run.
You can worry about what you like, and dream about whatever takes your fancy.
Just don't assume that everyone will agree with you if you express those worries or dreams.
Thanks for that. IMHO there is a need for such a comment as it would appear that people are too willing to settle for second best and I have heard many times funny or otherwise that's the West Ham Way. I really appreciate this forum as it gives me the opportunity to vent my frustration with the club I love. I don't expect people to agree with what I say but I find it difficult not to become frustrated if I believe there is something wrong and others just don't appear to see it. I've had far too many weekends ruined by being on the end of poor results. ;ok
Fortuneseeker, my rubbish comment was aimed at the Kumb article and certainly not your good self.
Designed with a pitch 50 feet away from the pitch! Mark Noble has suffered becoming so exposed on such a huge surface and he is so often the scapegoat. It’s hardly ever full,
Patent rubbish but made me laugh!
Come on, seriously, who are you trying to fool!? No player with any ounce of self respect would want to join such an amateur circus!
Ridiculous hyperbole
the fans are treated like dirt and fed lie after lie. I refuse now to be part of it.
This writer is free to make his choice (of action) but the words? I don't acce[t that I am being treated like dirt.
In fact, you could offer me a free season ticket and I would happily sell it. (Like a lot of 'fans' selling their final Upton Park match ticket - remember?
What I remember is many thousands of fans not being able to get in to that match and blocking Green Street just to soak in the atmosphere.
I'll stop there but there is plenty more rubbish in that article.
I like you you have spent far too many weekends wondering why I put myself through the pain. I guess that short of a lobotomy I'm stuck with it.
Like you I don't believe it is inevitably the lot of a West Ham fan to be supporting a mid-table (or worse a yo-yo) team with the fanbase we have but......I will patiently await the glorious day in the years remaining to me. Many Saturdays (and some week days) I will end up miserable for a few hours but then hope builds again and sometimes (a lot of times last season) my faith will reap rewards. Those times make up for the miserable times.
Keep the faith and again I apologise if you thought I was getting at you, just annoyed by that demoralising article which I didn't need at the time I wrote my earlier message.
Jinxed on kumb says Slav has a few hours left. Reckon Bilic will be sacked after the Arsenal game rather than before and give the new manager a baptism of fire against Arsenal
Clearly Jinxed doesn't know everything, considering they've just given the manager the vote of confidence......at least until the summer and probably beyond.
Make no mistake they've not helped with their "must win" comments and "not good enough" but they've always done that so we should be used to it after 7 years......
Get the 4-6 point required and start a fresh in the summer.
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http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/april/02-april/statement-west-ham-united-board
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;lol Good luck with that.
I'll be honest, I'm surprised.
But I'm glad they've said it. Six points more, at any cost, should see us safe. Then we can forget this horror show of a season and (cautiously) look forward to the next one.
Another horror show v arsenal and a failure v Swansea and he's gone.
Laughable that this is the same website that only a short while ago was publishing rumours about who we were targeting to replace him.
Information on same website, but hardly the same thing.
The ridiculous 'Mediawatch' simply repeats what is in the media; no different to what people do on here.
The statement from the board seems pretty unequivocal to me, and I'm glad they've done it.
Not sure what your point is.
We don't let users tell other users they are talking rubbish (even if that is what they think) whilst off the site is fair game.
Unless you can point to instances where MrsG or NWC expressed those views?
If you don't think it is rubbish, that is your opinion.
It still doesn't explain your comment. Other users on here think it is rubbish. That is their opinion.
The only reason they have put this out imo is to try and get the players and coaching staff to focus and get us the 3-5 points to get through this season
We have a media strategy? ;nonono
Each to their own.
I'd have assumed his position was under threat if they hadn't made a statement.
However, if it claims our owners don't treat our managers with respect, I think that is rubbish.
And I don't think our transfer policy was dire at all.
The outcomes have clearly been, in general, far less successful than we would have hoped, but that is often the luck of the draw, and doesn't imo, reflect a dire policy.
But you are free to disagree, and clearly do.
To the extent that opinions expressed by a poster on another forum are shared by, and have been expressed by, someone on here... I'd be more polite in indicating I disagreed.
I'm not going to go back through all my posts since last summer. But I guarantee that if anyone said we let Payet down through our transfer policy I would have indicated that I disagreed, either by posting such or clicking agree on someone else who did.
I can only recall horsham saying the board have a habit of undermining managers. And you'll notice that I responded, and disagreed. It's on the previous page of this thread. ;ok
Finally, my 'rubbish' was directed not only at the opinions expressed, but at the false facts, the poor argument, assertions without evidence, misrepresentations and lies.
I don't really get what the point of your comment was.
;biggrin
Is there any need for that type of comment?
Nobody has said any such thing.
You harp on about this 'tradition' - but again, no one has said anything like that.
What I have said, and seen similar comments from others, is that we are, de facto, a mid-table club, and that to go beyond that is an ambitious target which certainly won't be achieved in one or two seasons, if at all.
The first step to that dream, imo, is to become an Everton type club who are pretty much nailed on top 10-8 most seasons.
I don't think that will happen if we sack managers each time we have a poor run.
You can worry about what you like, and dream about whatever takes your fancy.
Just don't assume that everyone will agree with you if you express those worries or dreams.
I'll stop there but there is plenty more rubbish in that article.
I like you you have spent far too many weekends wondering why I put myself through the pain. I guess that short of a lobotomy I'm stuck with it.
Like you I don't believe it is inevitably the lot of a West Ham fan to be supporting a mid-table (or worse a yo-yo) team with the fanbase we have but......I will patiently await the glorious day in the years remaining to me. Many Saturdays (and some week days) I will end up miserable for a few hours but then hope builds again and sometimes (a lot of times last season) my faith will reap rewards. Those times make up for the miserable times.
Keep the faith and again I apologise if you thought I was getting at you, just annoyed by that demoralising article which I didn't need at the time I wrote my earlier message.
I'd say he was guessing.
Make no mistake they've not helped with their "must win" comments and "not good enough" but they've always done that so we should be used to it after 7 years......
Get the 4-6 point required and start a fresh in the summer.
COYI