Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)
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In Jan, the season had turned around. We'd gone from bottom three candidates to knocking on the door to the top 10.
What happened?
We signed nobody. We replaced Ogbonna with Fonte and Payet with Snodgrass. Two positions which needed filling.
But after that, nothing. No striker. No RB. No CM option as we may have needed.
Whoever made that call, whether it was Slav saying 'save the money' or the Dave's saying 'we won't spend' or a mixture of both, it was a poor decision. We've gone from 9th to approaching a game we must not lose under any circumstances or we will be two defeats off the drop zone. What we do know is the owners have history with the January blues in past windows.
Slav may well have said save the money until the summer. Problem is if this goes on much longer he won't be the one spending it.
We clearly need to work on it, because we've been very disorganised at defending set pieces this season, which is hardly surprising given we've changed GK and half the defence this season.
We must stick with Bilic, give him the chance over several seasons (say 5) to improve us bit by bit.
I would like to give him at least one more season hopefully a summer where we get the RB we've needed.
The thing is too many players last season where 8/9 most games this season we have too many players 4/5/6 out 10 no real leader on the pitch and tactics that
nobody seems to understand .
I watch Ironmen dvd which came Friday , I found the meeting with the coaching staff
very funny slav said " we will start with a 5 a side then up it to a 7 a side after 10 minutes ...... real intensive meeting ;biggrin
What if he's not good enough? Why would you need 5 years to draw any conclusion?
Besides the he expectations of all of us here debating the issue are not really going to count. It's the expectations of our owners which matter and I guess Bilic will be measured against those.
I think Noble was right about supporters. To be honest, I think our club's supporters are deluded, not in their expectation of football but in that they think they're good fans (even the best). That must have been along time ago because from what I've seen, our fans are fickle. The atmosphere isn't just dead at this stadium, it was pretty bad a lot of the time at Upton Park.
Of course I / we / most of us know it takes a lot longer
But there are many out there who thought it was like waving a magic wand and we'd be top 4 all of a sudden......
The point is they should be either extremely clear about what they say and allow for little to no confusion over expectations
That would help, IMO
I really don't think you can establish any useful policy on the basis of trying to ensure that the densest among us wouldn't be confused by it.
At some point, for me, you have to assume a reasonable level of cognitive engagement, and if that is missing, accept the Twit aftermath..
I might leave it up to you to work out where they've gone. ;biggrin
Just out of interest do you think Roeder should have been given a chance for several seasons? After all didn't he prove that he could do it too?
":The atmosphere isn't just dead at this stadium, it was pretty bad a lot of the time at Upton Park."
That applies to the vast majority of grounds in the Prem at least so to aim it at West Ham specifically is just plain wrong imo.
People talk about players being spoilt, not working hard enough, not caring etc. like the old days. Well, I wasn't there in the old days but if football supporters really were so good then, they've obviously changed. They want managers gone at every corner, decide players aren't good enough after 10 mins, do almost nothing to lift their team.
Who do we actually think we are? No manager will take us to the 'next level' without a takeover. What right do we have to be ahead of Everton, Southampton or Stoke, let alone the top 6? We could pick out a gem of a manager like Southampton have a couple of times but he'll then go somewhere else and we're left rebuilding again. I'd rather see us consolidate than try to jump forward.
Sure, we're not playing well and this season has been difficult but we're still 12th despite all the issues we had with Payet and Europa, imo, having an impact on how we had to buy in the Summer.
;ok
So that's a slightly different point. Keep him for several years but maybe get rid if he takes us down?
Which then presents a grey area - what to do if we are sitting in a hull type position after 30 games next season? Keep him with the risk we will sink. Or bring in someone to do a rescue job ;hmm
I personally do not think the daves will for one moment want to take any chances with our Prem status - they already got stung by not acting when it came to grant.
So if this works that way then 2 wins and a couple of draws should be enough
so let Bilic have another window put his foot down with the board and demand some quality players get rid of those who failed this season and start again .
That said Bilic will have to learn from his mistakes and stubbiness and playing
players out of position and also use the cups to bring in some young players
like Southampton and even Everton have done this season .
;ok
A manager has had a decent half season at a Champo club, and we're all over him?
I know there are those on here who don't rate the DDs, but surely no one could take this seriously, could they?
Reflect?
Reflect?
;yercoat
I'm a glass half full kind of person.
(See what I did there? ;wink ;wahoo )
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