The Transfer Window

IronHerb

ASLEFshrugged said:

According to the Moyesometer that leaves another transfer and a couple of loans with seven weeks before deadline day

Where did you see this? I've read we're looking for six or seven newbies and the impression i got was they would be permanents.

OldCastleSwift

Ex has been pretty insistent that Moyes wants a left-back. Whether he knows that as fact is, of course, a matter of opinion.

I think he does, personally; maybe not as big a priority as a striker, but I think we'll get one before the window closes.

Even if we ignore Cresswell's aberrations in the EL, he was culpable for a number of goals we conceded last season, and was clearly targeted by oppositions. He needs upgrading, IMO. Masuaku isn't the answer, because a) he's a defensive liability and b) has a long-standing knee problem.

IronHerb

OCS

You forgot c) He's not very good.

buffybegood

ASLEFshrugged said:

buffybegood said:

Fortuneseeker said:

ASLEF, What no new Left Back?

😱😱😱

I get the feeling Moyes isn't too worried about LB

As much as it's clear he sees a lot he likes in Cresswell, for a manager who seems to prioritise a solid defence I honestly can't believe Moyes will be blind to Cresswell's defensive frailties this season. Masuaku shouldn't even enter the conversation for LB, apart from his injuries he just isn't good enough to play LB for a team in the top half of the PL.

Apart from being extremely disappointed if we don't get a LB who is starting ahead of Cresswell by October, I'd also be very surprised.

Although I don't particularly rate Johnson at LB as he's even less effective going forward than he is at RB, it's getting to the stage where I'd prefer him to start ahead of Cresswell.

ASLEFshrugged

IronHerb said:

ASLEFshrugged said:

According to the Moyesometer that leaves another transfer and a couple of loans with seven weeks before deadline day

Where did you see this? I've read we're looking for six or seven newbies and the impression i got was they would be permanents.

From looking at his previous transfer dealings

Winter 2020
Transfers: Bowen, Randolph
Loans: Soucek

Summer 2020
Transfers: Coufal, Soucek
Loans: Dawson, Benrahma

Winter 2021
Transfers: Benrahma
Loans: Lingard

Summer 2021
Transfers: Zouma, Vlasic, Dawson
Loans: Areola, Kral

Winter 2022
Nothing

Summer: 2022
Transfers: Aguerd, Downes, Areola

He has never added more than five players, at least one was on loan here already and at least one was a loan deal. Six or seven permanent signings would be completely out of character for Moyes

OldCastleSwift

Out of character, maybe, but completely necessary.

Because of the lack of signings in previous windows.

All IMO, of course.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

If we're assuming Diop and Masuaku will leave

GK: Areola, Fab, Randolph
RB: Coufal, Johnson
LB: Cresswell (Johnson*)
CB: Zouma, Aguerd, Daws, Oggy
CM: Rice, Soucek, Downes, Lanzini, Coventry
AM: Bowen, Fornals, Benrahma, Vlasic
CF: Antonio

Need a LB and CF, also probably another CM

OldCastleSwift

Domino effect about to be felt maybe. City have announced the signing of Argentinian forward Julian Alvarez, which means they can now sanction the sale of Sterling to Chelsea, who can then allow Broja to leave...?

Fortuneseeker

The squad WHU listed above is twenty at best so unless we are going to give the youth a chance, unlikely due to David Moyes appearing to be reluctant to do so, it still needs five new additions to the first team. Maybe Mr Warburton could have a word with him & show him the error in his ways?

IronHerb

What's Warburton got to do with it?

Fortuneseeker

IronHerb, So you are telling me he doesn't have any dialogue with his coaching team? Warburton could tell him about what type of character Calvin Bassey is, who would be a good replacement for Cresswell.

IronHerb

Obviously they talk but Moyes has the final say, at least I hope he does. As for error of his ways, well that's a matter of opinion.

ASLEFshrugged

Fortuneseeker said:

Warburton could tell him about what type of character Calvin Bassey is, who would be a good replacement for Cresswell.

Warburton left Rangers February 2017 while Bassey was still with Leicester City's kids

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Fortuneseeker said:

The squad WHU listed above is twenty at best so unless we are going to give the youth a chance, unlikely due to David Moyes appearing to be reluctant to do so, it still needs five new additions to the first team. Maybe Mr Warburton could have a word with him & show him the error in his ways?

And yet Man City had a squad of 21 players.... the team that won the Prem and got to a semi-final of the champions league

Do wonder if any team actually has 25 senior players on the register that actually play

Fortuneseeker

WHU, I would be content if we had a squad of 21 if it was similar in quality to Manchester City.

Benrahma or more probably Vlasic could be leaving so the number goes down & Randolph isn't settled. Didn't he want to leave in January but DM wouldn't allow it?

ASLEF, Beaten by facts again.

Slacker

ASLEFshrugged said:

Fortuneseeker said:

Warburton could tell him about what type of character Calvin Bassey is, who would be a good replacement for Cresswell.

Warburton left Rangers February 2017 while Bassey was still with Leicester City's kids

Ooh, I love a fact.👏
I still don’t get the Cresswell negativity,I thought for the last two seasons he’s been a better than average premier league full back, but hey,what do I know?
We do need a striker though to take the weight off of Mickey but they’re not that easy to find are they?

alderz

OldCastleSwift said:

Domino effect about to be felt maybe. City have announced the signing of Argentinian forward Julian Alvarez, which means they can now sanction the sale of Sterling to Chelsea, who can then allow Broja to leave...?

Alvarez was confirmed in January but spent the rest of the season on loan with River. Dominos won’t start until Sterling moves.

Dodger58

Or was Alvarez replacing Jesus?

ASLEFshrugged

Antonio looks like he's having a laugh

OldCastleSwift

Dodger58 said:

Or was Alvarez replacing Jesus?

Haaland takes Jesus's spot I would imagine.

But the important thing is that Sterling goes to Chelsea, as far as the Broja deal goes.

Dodger58

Ah yes, I’d forgotten about him

yoyo

Google reporting: The Irons have been linked with the Denmark international
full back Joakim Maehle and as per the latest report, the London-based club are willing to offer £13million to sign the player in the ongoing transfer window...
Is this a comon rumour? He appears to be a right back by the report I've seen.

Fortuneseeker

yoyo, I believe he can play on either side right or left , see Josh Doig is set to leave & is linked with a move to Bologna to replace Hickey. Another good young left back who will likely increase in value like Hickey has.

Fortuneseeker

SSN reporting Doig is now likely to join Verona.

Bazshuayi

I just read the Sky article on Danny Drinkwater. My first thought, if asked about Drinkwater would've been 'I'd rather stay thirsty, thanks'.

However, considering a few things mentioned in the article (circs., home truths, struggles etc) and that he got his fitness and desire back playing 32 games for Reading last season, I actually thought he may not be the worst free transfer central midfielder we could get. He's certainly got a pedigree, experience plus that hunger to make up for the last 5 years at Chelsea.

I know it'll be easy to say no, but I changed my mind quite a bit on him after reading. Outside of the free transfer perhaps we could get him (initially at least) on a low/reasonable wage?

alderz

yoyo said:

Google reporting: The Irons have been linked with the Denmark international
full back Joakim Maehle and as per the latest report, the London-based club are willing to offer £13million to sign the player in the ongoing transfer window...
Is this a comon rumour? He appears to be a right back by the report I've seen.

He played as a left wing back in the Euros, I think, but is right footed.

ScotHammer

yoyo said:

Google reporting: The Irons have been linked with the Denmark international
full back Joakim Maehle and as per the latest report, the London-based club are willing to offer £13million to sign the player in the ongoing transfer window...
Is this a comon rumour? He appears to be a right back by the report I've seen.

Think this is the guy we were linked with last month. He supposedly plays on the left for Atalanta, but is listed as either right or left.

Bazshuayi

Justin Kluivert is another winger we are linked to. Another player supposedly available around the 13M mark. Is that what we have left? That and Jesse's wages which Moyes has hidden under his bed...

Kuchinghammer

The five subs rule means that Moyes could (that's a conditional) take more chances with less known players, by giving them 15 minutes in games. Will the old dog learn another new trick??

ASLEFshrugged

Jack Wilshere has retired aged 30 after being released by ADF Aarhus who narrowly avoided relegation from the Danish Superliga