Transfer Speculation

Cuz1

Because that’s a position we need sorting first can’t see it personally, think it’s obvious we need a striker first and foremost, then left back midfielder maybe another striker and then goalkeeper for me

MrsGrey

Priority doesn't equal order we buy them in though - it would be crazy to say we won't sign anyone until we get a striker.

Cuz1

No didn’t mean that but the budget surely must was my reckoning

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Would be very happy with Johnstone, seems like it could be a shrewd move...sadly Fab isn't the same keeper he was a few years ago, need someone new

Would prefer if we got rid of Randolph and Martin, keep Fab as 1nd choice and promote either Anang or Trott as 3rd choice, let Fab give some wisdom

thornburyiron

WHU which ordinal did you mean to use with the superscript ordinal? Is Fab your number 1 choice or your number 2. 😏

baracks_a_hammer

I think next season is going to a potential problem for us if we finish this season with a whimper.

This down turn could carry into next season. I am pretty certain the owners will underwhelm when it comes to transfers, especially as they have an added reason to hide behind

We need to finish in some sort of European position and still be in Europe by the time the kids go back to school.

If that doesn’t happen, and the expected lack of squad strengthening happens things may well become toxic when the fans come back and we could struggle in the league.

Next season will be one of the most challenging for Moyes in his recent managerial career IMO.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Not for the first time, I would be utterly ashamed of our 'fans' if they returned next season and decided to turn toxic.

We've had one of our top PL seasons even if we lose the next two. Why don't these 'fans' take some responsibility in terms of creating a better feel around the club, rather than expecting owners and squad to provide it for them?

It's a two-way street.

If we want to build something like Leicester, maybe our fanbase need to contribute to patience and positivity rather than generating tension and ugliness.

baracks_a_hammer

Yes, that’s a great shout Jorderz

I’m just setting out what might happen. Because it happened this way after the Payet season (not helped of course by Payet himself downing tools).

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

baracks_a_hammer said:

I think next season is going to a potential problem for us if we finish this season with a whimper.

This down turn could carry into next season. I am pretty certain the owners will underwhelm when it comes to transfers, especially as they have an added reason to hide behind

We need to finish in some sort of European position and still be in Europe by the time the kids go back to school.

If that doesn’t happen, and the expected lack of squad strengthening happens things may well become toxic when the fans come back and we could struggle in the league.

Next season will be one of the most challenging for Moyes in his recent managerial career IMO.

Don't really understand why youre saying we're going to underwhelm in the summer and saying we're going to mess up our recruitment after the season we just had....

If the fans turn toxic if we don't buy tons of reinforcement then we're just setting ourselves to be disappointed because the reality is that ots not going to happen

Yeoldhammer

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

Not for the first time, I would be utterly ashamed of our 'fans' if they returned next season and decided to turn toxic.

We've had one of our top PL seasons even if we lose the next two. Why don't these 'fans' take some responsibility in terms of creating a better feel around the club, rather than expecting owners and squad to provide it for them?

It's a two-way street.

If we want to build something like Leicester, maybe our fanbase need to contribute to patience and positivity rather than generating tension and ugliness.

Just isn't going to happen. Too much anger at the owners that trickles down to players performances and manager unfortunately.

I think the biggest thing will be if players are still getting down on one knee in support of BLM. There was a lot of whistling and boos at recent games that had attendances. Unfortunately there is a loud minority within West Ham that will for certain Boo when this is done if it is continued next season.

IronHerb

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

Why don't these 'fans' take some responsibility in terms of creating a better feel around the club, rather than expecting owners and squad to provide it for them?

Wow. So the attending fans have been found guilty before any offence has been committed.

ASLEFshrugged

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

Would be very happy with Johnstone, seems like it could be a shrewd move...sadly Fab isn't the same keeper he was a few years ago, need someone new

Would prefer if we got rid of Randolph and Martin, keep Fab as 1nd choice and promote either Anang or Trott as 3rd choice, let Fab give some wisdom

Martin is out of contract at the end of the season

Randolph has another two seasons, he quit Boro where he was first choice keeper to be Fabs back up so I doubt if he's interested in a transfer unless he's reduced to third choice as he was with Joe Hart.

I'm actually happy with Fabs in goal, don't think he's noticeably worse than last season

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Yeoldhammer said:

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

Not for the first time, I would be utterly ashamed of our 'fans' if they returned next season and decided to turn toxic.

We've had one of our top PL seasons even if we lose the next two. Why don't these 'fans' take some responsibility in terms of creating a better feel around the club, rather than expecting owners and squad to provide it for them?

It's a two-way street.

If we want to build something like Leicester, maybe our fanbase need to contribute to patience and positivity rather than generating tension and ugliness.

Just isn't going to happen. Too much anger at the owners that trickles down to players performances and manager unfortunately.

I think the biggest thing will be if players are still getting down on one knee in support of BLM. There was a lot of whistling and boos at recent games that had attendances. Unfortunately there is a loud minority within West Ham that will for certain Boo when this is done if it is continued next season.

If it doesn't happen it isn't because of an inevitability - it will be because certain people have decided to act that way, and create a toxic environment at a stadium and around a club which isn't theirs. It's all of ours.

Am I delighted with our owners? No. But do I feel I have the right to generate a toxic atmosphere around the club? Definitely not.

As for people booing when taking the knee, I don't know what this has to do with anything. If anybody is booing/jeering that then we will be a better club when they're banned.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

IronHerb said:

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

Why don't these 'fans' take some responsibility in terms of creating a better feel around the club, rather than expecting owners and squad to provide it for them?

Wow. So the attending fans have been found guilty before any offence has been committed.

I think it was pretty obvious the intention of my post concerned a hypothetical situation with so-called fans creating negativity to suit their own agendas. Not all fans in the stadium indiscriminately.

In fact, it's exactly the rest of the fanbase that I'm defending. Their right to enjoy being at the stadium again after the pandemic. Their right to feel pride in their club again after a great season, where players and manager have been fantastic.

IronHerb

"If we want to build something like Leicester, maybe our fanbase need to contribute to patience and positivity rather than generating tension and ugliness."

That doesn't read very hypothetical to me.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Well, it starts with ‘if’ for a start, which is how you begin a hypothetical.

Regardless, it was aimed at anybody generating negativity.

baracks_a_hammer

The comment about Leicester including the word “patience” is not strictly true by my book

They were a hairs breath away from getting relegated and then immediately won the league. Where was patience needed on their part exactly?

Cuz1

And won the league with Nigel Pearson’s team all along but least they got the real messiah in charge now 😂😂

OutcastLondoner

Cuz1 said:

And won the league with Nigel Pearson’s team all along but least they got the real messiah in charge now 😂😂

They didn’t have Kante, the man who decides league titles and world cups

Ace of Clubs

They did have Kante, he joined Chelsea at the end of that season.

buffybegood

This board is always going to have the potential to generate a toxic atmosphere in the ground. They've lied to us with respect to the OS, they've taken money out of the club, and, just as in the Payet season, they refused to invest in January when, with a very thin squad, we were on course for an exceptional season.

They're going to make 100s of millions of pounds when they sell up, so they should be prepared to suck up some losses (which would be smaller if they didn't charge us interest) in the meantime.

Anything achieved on the pitch is in spite of not because of our owners.

ASLEFshrugged

baracks_a_hammer said:

They were a hairs breath away from getting relegated and then immediately won the league. Where was patience needed on their part exactly?

Under Pearson they finished 14th. winning 9 of their last 11 games (including us). In the summer Claudio Raneri brought in Christian Fuchs, Robert Huth, Shinji Okazaki and N'Golo Kante.

IronHerb

When did Mahrez sign?

Ace of Clubs

IronHerb said:

When did Mahrez sign?

2014.

Fortuneseeker

We were supposed to have been very interested in Kante but went for Obiang instead.

MrsGrey

Fortuneseeker said:

We were supposed to have been very interested in Kante but went for Obiang instead.

Who says we were very interested? Surely lots of paper talk. Anything more than that?

Ace of Clubs

Mrs Grey, surely you not saying that newspapers would print something that's not 100% true.

MrsGrey

I'll get me coat ...

Fortuneseeker

Mrs G, I sat next to the scout when I was on holiday whilst he watched Kante play is that enough evidence for you?

OldCastleSwift

Fortuneseeker said:

We were supposed to have been very interested in Kante but went for Obiang instead.

I think it was Song that we opted for instead, though I might be wrong 🤔