The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

Fortuneseeker

Yes and this is the same David Moyes who hasn't play Hernandez anywhere as often as he could have.

PrestonHammer

Hernandez has been injured quite a bit.

ASLEFshrugged

Hernandez was injured for Moyes's first four games in charge but other than that he's been fit to play.

He was left out of the squad because other players, specifically Arnie and Lanzini, were in good form, the only questionable move by Moyes was dropping Hernandez for the Liverpool game after he's scored in two consecutive games

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

If I also believe the signings were his signings too, Mario has shown glimpses but see no point in Hugill and Evra is a joke...which is a tad worrying for me

But obviously january isn't a great time to buy so perhaps i'm being harsh, although his purchases at Sunderland were deeply uninspiring imo (but again they were awful anyways)

Think the final run of games will answer the question for me, but personally im in favour of keeping him just because he does need time and has done an okayish job. Think him getting the most out of Arnie is a big plus, as the results haven't exactly been amazing

But what he has done is give us an identity, think under Bilic we had no plan, we aimlessly passed it around the back for 5 minutes only to thump it 50 yards up the pitch. Also I think if he got to them at preseason it would have been much better as the fitness levels were frankly embarrassing under Bilic and the players look fitter and sharper despite the average age being quite high

For me he needs to beat Stoke and Everton (could live with a draw in that one). Chelsea, United, Arsenal and City are all free hits so not gonna judge him too badly if we lose all of those

In addition I dont think there are a huge pool of top top managers out there who can do a better job then him, we've been turned away by ambitious managers when were were in a much better light then we are now

ASLEFshrugged

We signed Evra because the window had closed and the only LB options we had were Cresswell or Antonio until Arthur had served his six match ban. Unless we get another serious injury crisis I wouldn't expect to see Evra on the pitch in a West Ham shirt ever again

SuzanneClaret

;phew

Cuz1

ASLEFshrugged said:

We signed Evra because the window had closed and the only LB options we had were Cresswell or Antonio until Arthur had served his six match ban. Unless we get another serious injury crisis I wouldn't expect to see Evra on the pitch in a West Ham shirt ever again

I wouldn’t have wanted to see him in one ever

baracks_a_hammer

ASLEFshrugged said:

We signed Evra because the window had closed and the only LB options we had were Cresswell or Antonio until Arthur had served his six match ban. Unless we get another serious injury crisis I wouldn't expect to see Evra on the pitch in a West Ham shirt ever again

Bet our reserve/development team left back would have been thrilled at knowing this.

thornburyiron

If he was the guy they’ve just let go he obviously wasn’t rated.

baracks_a_hammer

Well it’s all academic - in Arthur’s absence we had a pretty poor run and got humiliated on occasion too

Hammerlegend

For me personally, I would stick with Moyes, I think he has done a decent job and had to deal with some tough times with injuries. I think he has earned the right to have another season. think we will pick up points in our remaining games and bearing in mind we our most likely 3/4 points from safety I think we could well get very close to 40 points even maybe just over. The only change I would personally consider is, if we have the chance to bring Rafa in, but I would still think it would be harsh on Moyes if that happened.

Deanscaleshammer

If he stays there will be trouble
If he goes it will be double

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I hope Moyes stays. I think he's done a good job with a very thin squad at times. There have been setbacks, but we usually get a good reaction. The players work very hard under him, too.

I've enjoyed watching us play under him, both going forward and (most of the time) looking a little more solid at the back. He hasn't been afraid to use Rice, even in big pressure games, and I don't think he'd be afraid to use any other big talents if he sees enough on the training ground.

He's worked wonders with Arnie. I liked his no nonsense approach when Antonio was late for training. His interviews are always very frank and honest, while I like. He's quite positive, always looking up the table rather than down, too.

I think a club doing its absolute best to keep a manager in place is really vital for player attitudes, too. I often think when a team keeps changing managers (ala Chelsea) the players don't mind throwing strops and throwing in the towel, as they know the manager will be cleared out long before them.

madridhammer

Assuming he keeps us up ,& it's looking like he will, we should offer him a contract.I don't think yet another change will do the players any good & I'd like to see what he can do.Let him clear out what he sees as dead wood & give him some money.I just wish he'd play Hernandez more though & I fear we could lose him if he doesn't get more playing time.

Fortuneseeker

madrid I agree about Javier and with the rumour about Rondon he may well leave which IMHO will be a great pity. We have had players over the years that did very little outside the box but scored a lot I cannot see why Hernandez should be judged on a different set of criteria.

MarkNobleLocalHero

Jorderz, I'm sorry I could only give you one agree (max allowed) but... ;ok ;ok ;ok ;ok ;beer
Sorry the thumb is a right hand one but it'll do

jay_in_cpt

Jorderz let's be honest , with ur username I stopped reading after u state u think he should stay ;wink ;run

Cuz1

Think he should stay for job he’s done but also because he could probably work within the budget given although if he stays I think Hernandez and Carrol goes imo

IronHerb

MIAHammer

Cuz1 said:

Think he should stay for job he’s done but also because he could probably work within the budget given although if he stays I think Hernandez and Carrol goes imo

If he can offload AC he definitely deserves the job!

ASLEFshrugged

If he can offload AC he deserves a knighthood

Vorselaarhammer

Hopefully we can offload him he injuries are systemic...

ASLEFshrugged

His injury record (and his wage packet) is why no other team want him!

baracks_a_hammer

What I don’t get is how AC can emerge unscathed after that ludicrous and frankly brilliant bicycle kick v Palace, yet can step out of the bath and be subsequently sidelined for 3 months...

IronHerb

There you go barracks ;lol

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/dec/12/home-accident-risk-nhs-doctor

OutcastLondoner

;nonono I really didn't know my daily horse riding habit was so dangerous.

MrsGrey

That article ;lol

the use of drills and chainsaws can lead to very severe injuries.

;doh

BubblesNeverDies

Injuries with chainsaws - who'd have thought that? ;biggrin

alderz

My uncle once sawed through his thigh with a circular saw, but he said it didn't hurt until he saw the blood and then he noticed it was bad and was in agony

MrsGrey

;nonono