Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    If he goes on loan does his wages still go on our books?

    Thinking about FFP.

    The 4 we've bought in must all be at the top end of out wage structure...
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    It would also be another HG player gone.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Yes, would bring us down to below the minimum.

    So we'd either have to ensure our next signing was HG, or name a HG kid in one of the 25 squad places.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Grey - what exactly are you doubting is true? Sullivan said on the club website that Joe Hart was "the best goalkeeper I’ve worked with and I fully expect him to be equally as good for us this coming season", "I expect him to be a great player for our Club and can’t wait to see him in a Hammers shirt at London Stadium for the first time" and "it would not surprise me at all if he is in the running for the Hammer of the Year award come next May"

    Bilic was a little more tactful by saying that Hart would have to earn his starting place like everyone else but its not hard to understand how Adrian and Randolph could see Sullivan's statement as an unambiguous message from the board that they were considered as back-up to Hart.

    With both Randolph and Adrian hoping to go to the World Cup there's little reason for either of them to want to stay at West Ham
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Leaving space for Wilshire to fill the HG??
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Or possibly Gray.

    Or like the Mrs G says, we could use Cullen, or Rice, or Burke to fill a squad place if we needed to (assuming they don't go on loan)
  • AdamAdam
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Just a word on ‘Boro. If they do sign Fletcher, they’ll have him, Assombalonga, Braithwaite, Bamford and Gestede as their options up front.

    Good luck keeping them all happy…

    That reminds me of the time when we had, I think, 7 strikers at the club. I can't remember when or who they were, though. Was it when we had Ilan, Robbie Keane, Mido?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited July 2017
    i thought Burke and Cullen were already off to Bolton ?

    If Fletcher goes surely we are angling for a move for Andre Gray ? one HG out one in ?
  • HammerexHammerex
    MrsGrey said:

    Yes, would bring us down to below the minimum.

    So we'd either have to ensure our next signing was HG, or name a HG kid in one of the 25 squad places.

    What is the minimum number reqd. for home grown players.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    8, hammerex.
    Hart, Byram, Collins, Cresswell, Antonio, Noble, Carroll, (Fletcher).

    We had 9 before Randolph left.

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    but its not hard to understand how Adrian and Randolph could see Sullivan's statement as an unambiguous message from the board that they were considered as back-up to Hart.

    With both Randolph and Adrian hoping to go to the World Cup there's little reason for either of them to want to stay at West Ham

    Aslef, the signing of Hart was what set events in motion, imo. Not DS's comments.

    They aren't stupid - they'd know Hart was being signed with the expectation that he would be No. 1.

  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    ASLEF

    I'm disagreeing with the assertion/belief that Diddy D's comments were the spur for Randy and Adrian to consider doing the off.

    Randy and Adrian would have to be thicker than a concrete milkshake to not realise, on their own, that they were going to be playing 2nd fiddle to Hart.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    But he still phrased the comment wrong imo.
  • Ace of ClubsAce of Clubs
    edited July 2017
    If Adrian was to leave my main cocearn would not be the 2 games against City but if Hart was to suffer a long term injury, leaving us without an experanced keeper for a few months.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited July 2017
    According to Slav, we've offered Adrian a new deal ;hmm

    He's also confirmed Fletcher has left Germany to speak to Boro, and that he expects someone to leave and someone to come in, but not until the end of the window.

    football.london/west-ham-united-fc/transfer-news/slaven-bilic-press-conference-live-13393690.amp#live-event-entry-792219
  • alderzalderz
    I'm fairly sure that you don't have to name 8 HG players in the 25, but that you need to have room for 8. So, for example, you could name 0 HG players but only have a squad of 17 players. If Fletcher leaves it could be that our squad is 24, plus youth.

    Also, I don't think Fletcher leaving will require a replacement in the squad directly. I don't see him as someone who was likely to start any games this year anyway. IMO, for him to actually get a run of games he would need Hernandez, Carroll, Sakho, Ayew & Antonio to all be unavailable at the same time.

    I'm not concerned about Adrián leaving, personally. I think it's fairly easy to pick up an experienced back up goalkeeper of sufficient standard. There is talk of Newcastle wanting a swap deal with Karl Darlow, who would be a very capable deputy to Hart. Then there is talk of Bentley from Brentford, who I know a lot less about but seems to be highly rated.

    I also don't think DS comments have led to Adrián and Randolph leaving. They are both sensible and realistic enough to know that Hart is better than them, regardless of Sullivan essentially saying so. However, just my opinion, I would have preferred DS to have said nothing at all.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    OCS ;ok

    lots of info in that interview how the various discussions on this board...
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited July 2017
    alderz said:

    I'm fairly sure that you don't have to name 8 HG players in the 25, but that you need to have room for 8. So, for example, you could name 0 HG players but only have a squad of 17 players. If Fletcher leaves it could be that our squad is 24, plus youth.

    Yes, you are right, I was getting confused. The rules are effectively that if you name 25, 8 must be HG but by implication you can reduce each category equally. (It's different in the lower leagues where they have a HG quota for the team sheet for every match.)

    At the outset of the season, each club is allowed to register 25 players over the age of 21. Of those 25 players, 8 must qualify as home grown players (A.1.156). (PL Handbook)

    (Memo to self - only rely on primary sources ;doh Supplementary memo to self: Remember! The FA website is rubbish! )
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Review of the summer buisness so far for each team...

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-arsenal-manchester-united-transfers-10880856.amp
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited July 2017
    Wee bit surprised so many fans have given their clubs such good grades but perspective is everything

    Think outside of city and Chelsea who've spent a fortune us, Bournemouth and Everton have done the best moves so far
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    I'm confused....

    Imagine telling any Everton fan in 2013 that by 2018, we'd have sold Lukaku, Barkley, Deulofeu and Stones. Shows how far we've come since.
  • adecokeradecoker
    alderz said:


    Also, I don't think Fletcher leaving will require a replacement in the squad directly. I don't see him as someone who was likely to start any games this year anyway. IMO, for him to actually get a run of games he would need Hernandez, Carroll, Sakho, Ayew & Antonio to all be unavailable at the same time..

    And we all know that is never likely to happen.

  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    edited July 2017
    Where's Barkley gone?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Nowhere yet, but Koeman has said Barkley wants to go and the club is certain he will.
  • alderzalderz
    adecoker said:

    alderz said:


    Also, I don't think Fletcher leaving will require a replacement in the squad directly. I don't see him as someone who was likely to start any games this year anyway. IMO, for him to actually get a run of games he would need Hernandez, Carroll, Sakho, Ayew & Antonio to all be unavailable at the same time..

    And we all know that is never likely to happen.

    I'm assuming this is sarcasm, but yeah it is unlikely that all 5 of those players would be injured at the same time often enough for Fletcher to actually get a run of games as a CF for us.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    edited July 2017
    From skysportsnews

    ADRIAN TO PALACE?

    Crystal Palace are in talks with West Ham over a £3m deal for goalkeeper Adrian, reports The Daily Mail.

    I prefer the swap with Darlow option myself.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    3m for Adrian 30m for pickford ;lol ;lol ;lol
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    I mentioned Adrian to Palace for a pathetic amount back on page 15 ;hmm Now its been mentioned again I can have another moan about it! Why would we even think about settling for less than an 8 figure amount ;doh ;angry We're surely not desperate to sell and the inflated market makes the figures quoted embarrassing. Spurs would be asking 25M!
  • LukerzLukerz
    Surely we could get at least £8m for Adrian?
  • LukerzLukerz
    Ex claiming there is interest from LFC in Lanzini should Coutinho leave.
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