Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    On the Mendy deal City made an offer, it was turned down, and they were told what figure would be acceptable they offered it & the rest is history.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Fortune

    Then we'll agree to disagree.

    You see our club as unique in its inability to do transfers quickly.

    I assume that back and forth and negotiation and counter-negotiation is a standard part of transfer business that pretty much all clubs go through with some of their transfers.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    I don't think the 40 million is the problem, I think the problem is how it is paid. We want to pay in installments and I think Sporting want a large lump sum up front and then installments.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    grey,

    I am probably blinkered by my frustration that we get linked with quality players and as what does happen with other clubs we don't sign them and even worse get blindsided by another team and they acquire the player. ;ok
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    All the exceptionally wealthy clubs can afford to pay large chunks of the transfer fee up front as they have the resources; everyone else normally spreads it over the length of the contract (amortised) in order to make it financially viable which is why the whole "net spend" opinion is normally gimmicky as it isnt that binary as football computer games make out. The independent did a good piece on transfers which is worth a read:-
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/transfer-window-premier-league-revealed-how-a-transfer-deal-really-works-a7837031.html

    As for Carvalho. He's a top player, very good reputation, an important player for them so I'm sure they are wanting the best possible deal and are possibly looking to maybe get 1 or 2 in before they let him go. As outcastlondoner said, the Portuguese clubs are well versed in selling players on, at a big profit and negotiating the best deal possible. Its principally how they survive and continue to compete year after year. I think we will get Carvalho and just need to be patient as things will become clearer now Sporting have qualified for the CL. I believe Carvalho will line up for us v Huddersfield.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    twc,

    Or for Chelsea if the latest rumours are to be believed!
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Fortune, seems like a negotiating tactic, leaking "other interest" to put more pressure on us. If chelsea wanted him so badly they would've just swooped in and paid what they want as they have the money; just like they did with Batshuayi when WHU and palace were negotiating for him. Also they have Kante, Bakayoko and Luiz to play that (specialised) position so I would be very surprised if he turned up at chelsea ( other than playing for us against them ;lol )
  • McHammerMcHammer

    BREAKING NEWS Sky

    Aston Villa have completed the signing of Robert Snodgrass on a season-long loan from West Ham United.

  • AdamAdam
    We must be getting someone else in then. Could be Jota? Or maybe someone we've not been linked to yet.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    It's also on the OS
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    There are so many things which create a sometimes quite complex picture regarding every transfer, with regard Calvalho;

    Do they want to sell or only accepting they have to if release met?
    Has Champions league qualification changed their picture? would they like keep him to be stronger and need money less? or happy to sell now that goal is secured?
    Does he want to come or is he stalling to see if others with higher profile come in? bear in mind he looks at the premiership table and sees us rooted to the bottom, he likely would imagine he could better if worth 40m.

    All of these things and likely a few more create a more complex picture than gets reported and only the parties involved are aware of.

    If I put on my everything is as it looks head I think the Club recognise that if we are to progress in the most ultra competitive league in the world we need be paying this much for players and will do all possible to push it over the line. Where as if I put my cynical head on I fear our owners always like a bigger name than they seriously expect to get to create an impression of them being bigger league than they are.

    I am open to be convinced either way. I hope we get him as he is quality, but I have also enjoyed seeing Rice play and think he has a very big future and so should we not it can only mean more opportunities for him.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited August 2017
    we literally have no width in our team now. I don't consider Antonio or Arnie as genuine wide players.

    I think the board and Slav have boxed themselves in now. the formations are going to be very rigid or back to square pegs in round holes again.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    You don't consider Antonio a wide player?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    No he is like Ayew and Arnie Imo left or right of the striker up top.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I think that's all wingers are in the modern game, though. Nobody plays a 4-4-2 with genuine wide players hugging the touchline. Antonio and Arnie are typical of what you find now, IMO.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Slav had said that if anyone else leaves we will have to replace them so it could be interesting.
    How many of our summer 16 and January 17 signings are still with us.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Thorn I believe the Popcorn vendor still is.... ;biggrin

    Only Ayew and Masuka I think?? When did we sign Fernandez?
  • stevesteve
    Sky saying we have pulled out of carvallio deal ;weep
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    edited August 2017
    ninjaedit...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Didn't Arsenal trigger the Suarez release fee and that didn't happen.
    Barca have been chasing Coutinho for a month. So we're not alone in long drawn out transfers.
    Why are we so happy to put ourselves down?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    According to SSN a senior club official has said €40M is too expensive and he hasn't trained for weeks so probably couldn't play for at least 4-6 weeks. Surely they've known this all along.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    The more I have read about this bloke he is more of a deep lying creative midfielder rather than a defensive midfielder his stats show he made considerably less tackles than obiang . I don't think as a club we can afford to make a mistake with 30mil plus . I was quite looking forward to signing him but the longer it's gone on and the not training part so he gets his move (alledgely) makes me think maybe this might turn out to be a blessing
  • imagelostimagelost
    Yeoldhammer said:

    we literally have no width in our team now. I don't consider Antonio or Arnie as genuine wide players.

    I think the board and Slav have boxed themselves in now. the formations are going to be very rigid or back to square pegs in round holes again.

    No wide players currently
    ;ccole
  • imagelostimagelost
    And there razor ruddock
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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    edited August 2017
    steve said:

    Sky saying we have pulled out of carvallio deal ;weep

    Who honestly saw that coming! ;whistle

    I reserve the right to comment later as I will be castigated for what I might say at the current moment if it's true.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    edited August 2017
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    Maybe we are bluffing?
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    He's fit enough to be included in their latest World Cup Qualifiers Squad?
  • LukerzLukerz
    That insider quote reads like Sully.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    edited August 2017
    Chat is we are paying 35% of snodgrass's wages.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Oh well, lets pay £30m off the debt then.
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