Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

alderz

But they can... plenty of deals go through before, and pre contract deals always get signed in advance

McHammer

From sky premier league show last night

"West Ham vice-chairman Brady is discussing West Ham's pursuit of William Carvalho, and how complex signing players can be this late in the transfer window."

Also confirmed that when the transfer window change of dates was discussed in March that 17 clubs were broadly in favour of the change.

Pearces_Left_Foot

http://www.football365.com/news/f365-says-the-summer-that-busted-the-player-power-myth

A good thing
;hmm

Vorselaarhammer

Sky sources: West Ham have informed Robert Snodgrass that he is surplus to requirements and is available for either a transfer or a loan.

NEoldiron

Snodgrass scores goals for Hull, Ayew scores goals for Swansea. They come to us and the goals dry up; this seems to happen too often - why? Is it the West Ham way? ;hmm

PrestonHammer

It's on the BBC website too:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40968378

imagelost

NEoldiron said:

Snodgrass scores goals for Hull, Ayew scores goals for Swansea. They come to us and the goals dry up; this seems to happen too often - why? Is it the West Ham way? ;hmm

;weep

Hammerwombat

One day, we will find another Cottee and Mac partnership. Until then, we must tread water and believe.

imagelost

imagelost said:

NEoldiron said:

Snodgrass scores goals for Hull, Ayew scores goals for Swansea. They come to us and the goals dry up; this seems to happen too often - why? Is it the West Ham way? ;hmm

;weep

I didnt think much of ayew
I think we needed synods a few years ago
Waste of time and money

baracks_a_hammer

I honestly don't know what role Ayew is supposed to perform in the side, but whatever it is he has massively underwhelmed in it.

mike

I remember ayew putting on a great performance for swansea when they beat us 4-1 on our last saturday game at the boleyn, so i was over the moon when we signed him.
I cannot put my finger on why he hasn't come good at west ham.He seems to drift in and out of games up to a point that you forget he's even on the pitch.
;hmm

Vorselaarhammer

We bought him as a striker when he is not a striker, we play him on the wing when he is a number 10, he was injured long term, Antonio is our RW, Lanzini is our 10.

He contributed to 9 goals in 16 games last season.

A such I think he has done well considering....

alderz

He's a goal poacher. He needs to play right behind another striker, either from the left or #10. He would work particularly well with AC imo.

Yeoldhammer

everyone would work well with AC but hes never fit

grey_til_I_dye

Yeoldhammer said:

everyone would work well with AC but hes never fit for an extended period

Fixed it for ya! ;wink

McHammer

On Snodgrass I think we have to take a transfer rather than a loan even though it may mean a heavy loss on what we paid. His value is only going to decrease and we will end up subsidising his wages. The public announcement looks like we want him out to maybe bring 1 in hopefully.

Pearces_Left_Foot

https://realsport101.com/news/sports/football/west-ham-william-carvalho-best-signing-west-hams-summer-far/

Another report suggests he is refusing to train until he get his move

SuzanneClaret

If that's the case I'm not sure I want him.

claretandbluesky

Something distinctly wrong with footballers in my view. If you don't want to sign a contract don't, if you do then expect to be paid for the duration and expect to stay the duration unless a move is by mutual agreement. If your club says they don't want to sell then see out your contract or leave when their position changes later in the contract. It's not a complex arrangement and based upon contract law, if you want to be able to leave when you want then allow them to stop paying you and let you go when they want if you are a bit Zsa Zsa.

IronHerb

But they have agreed to let him go, they make an agreement and then change it. It's the club in this instance who are misbehaving.

claretandbluesky

I presume however they agreed to let him go in principle if a price of their accepting is offered, unlike a Dimi deal in which the player and buying club decide a price between them that they wish to pay. I don't actually think we are doing what Marsaille did and perhaps his club are moving goalposts in which case their is indeed a difference. My post is really just out of frustration of seeing clubs pay wages to flops and yet when they unearth a gem and should be able to prosper through their services the player wants off and throws toys out the pram. A bit of professional decency is needed to redress the imbalance in my view.

Vorselaarhammer

Reid has signed a new 6 years contract.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Knew not to get excited about this as I couldn't see him joining or us matching his buy out clause

We can moan about the u turn (if there was one) but the release clause is there we just need to stump up the cash if we truly want him

We NEED a real DM who is better than what we have if we want to break into the top 8 and we haven't really spent money this summer

Think we are gonna regret not getting Lemina (i know he's not a DM strictly but he's an athletic player who can do that side of the game)

McHammer

http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/august/18-august/winston-embodies-everything-great-about-west-ham-united

New deal for Winston

McHammer

Sorry Vorse missed ur post

Fortuneseeker

IF we aren't going to get Carvalho then why not try to buy Kondogbia from Inter as he could do the same job?

grey_til_I_dye

Barcelona have told Liverpool they have until Sunday to accept their £118m bid for 25-year-old attacking midfielder Philippe Coutinho, or the offer will be withdrawn.

Times - subscription

Boy: Do you want to go out with me?

Girl: No, thanks.

Boy: But I really want to go out with you.

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Boy: If you don't go out with me by Sunday, I'm going to stop asking you.

IronHerb

I'll come out with you Grey. ;wink

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Wish we just paid Carvalhos release clause...... we really need him and the release clause will deffo get our man

claretandbluesky

I am hoping our poor start to the season will actually serve us and encourage the board to take a chance in the manner all PL clubs have to at some point and pay a bit over the odds for the right man if available. The reason I say the right man is that I think he is just what we need and will bring solidity in front of a defence that no one else is doing at present, it is a massive outlay for our club but if we are serious about this season then it does need doing in my view.

If staying fit we have options up front that were totally missing last season and Carvalho could be the link that brings the whole team together, we could through him reduce the leakage at the back which would allow the goals scored by Hernandez, Arto, Sakho and AC actually result in points.