Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

Bazshuayi

Just to clarify its Andre Gray who Id like to sign. I wouldnt say no to Leicesters Gray either but think he'll be signed by a bigger club in near future

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Lukerz,

They may have said earlier on that they'd sign two strikers, but they didn't say they'd sign two strikers plus a club record attacking winger.

So I think it's a fair assumption that the second striker evolved into signing Arnautovic based on his availability and the lack of other strikers available.

MrsGrey

jorderz ;ok

I think they used 'striker' and 'forward' interchangeably, and I think therefore they see that as including Arnautovic playing in a front 3.

Pearces_Left_Foot

C&H reporting we need to sell before we can buy again as we have hit the limit on wages

MrsGrey

Quick status check:

Squad is currently 24 strong, with 9 HG players.

IronHerb

https://mobile.twitter.com/paddypower/status/889483423257067520
;biggrin

IronHerb

That was meant to be the PaddyPower tweet

[edit - should be visible now, Herb]

MunichHammer

SuzanneClaret said:

King.

We should buy King.

Didn't Elvis have more problems with weight than Fat Frank and Benny Mc put together? Unless you want him to fill out the goal so we can go 0-1-5-4-1. But then why sign Hart? ;wink

Lukerz

Jorderz/MrsG - maybe, but then they are again missing an opportunity to push on.

Gold said 'two proven strikers' and his reasoning was both Sakho and Carroll are 'injury prone'.

I don't know how that then stretches to one striker and a winger who gets a few goals and assists.

I would be disappointed if that was our busness done. Shift a couple out, bring a couple more in, including another striker.

MrsGrey

MunichHammer said:

Didn't Elvis have more problems with weight than Fat Frank and Benny Mc put together? Unless you want him to fill out the goal so we can go 0-1-5-4-1. But then why sign Hart? ;wink

Because he was a Moody Blue?

Lukerz

Sullivan says on talkSPORT 'still £100m in debt'. ;lol

We'll never hear the end of that.

Also says Sakho is 100% fit.

Says we don't need any more midfielders.

MunichHammer

Slav - it's allright complaining about not pushing on if it's not your money, is it? I am pretty chuffed with our transfer business so far and if no-one else comes in, so be it. If the need arises I think our squad should be able to cope with injuries and we have youth players who can come in, too. Also, we only need to wait until Jan until we can sign players again.

MrsGrey

SuzanneClaret said:

King.

We should buy King.

What is it with you and Elvis?

;quaver From a Jack (Wilshere) to a (Josh) King?

FlorinRaduclious

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

Shift a couple out, bring a couple more in

While I agree a couple of extra players could improve our team, I am wary that effectively forcing a couple out and bringing in too many first teamers can cause excessive disruption to the squad and could struggle to gel quickly, potentially damaging our start to the season. Of course contrary to that if we do make another great signing I'll be the first to be singing in delight but you know what I mean...

Vorselaarhammer

Apparently the deal for Feghouli to Turkey is done.

That will mean Ayew as backup covering AM / Striker. Snodgrass then in backup for backup AM.

I think we need one more AM.

I would also still like a Dynamic DM with the Kouyate injury we have no else like him.

Hammerex

I think our squad need to be all shook up.

Pearces_Left_Foot

We can only sign more players if we have the wages available to pay them which means we have to sell first as we have hit our wage limit.

MrsGrey

Vorselaarhammer said:

Apparently the deal for Feghouli to Turkey is done.

I think we need one more AM.

If any players leave, I think they should be replaced ;ok

(But only by someone at least as good. I don't want signings to just make up the numbers. I'd rather save the dosh for when someone who'll improve the starting XI comes available.)

MunichHammer

Which you know how?

TwistandShout

Still need a DM and a striker

OldCastleSwift

The N'Diaye rumours aren't going away. From what I've read about him he can play the Kouyate role, i.e. box-to-box and can also play the No10 role. I wonder if he's being considered to fill a couple of roles in the squad ;hmm

With Kouyate injured, our midfield for the Man U game is likely to be Obiang and Noble, with Fernandes and Cullen (assuing he's not going on loan) on the bench. Not hugely strong so I wouldn't be surprised if we were looking at another CM.

Lukerz

So why I we still £100m in debut?

We were £100m in debt when they bought the club in 2010?

Don't understand. ;hmm

FlorinRaduclious

My only worry about bringing in another designated CM is that the reason Nordtveit left was due to lack of games. Without playing in Europe I don't think we can guarantee a '4th CM' enough games to keep him happy. Therefore it makes sense to give that role to a youth (Fernandes/Cullen). I can understand NDiaye a bit as from what I've read he's a ACM so back up / another option to Lanz, but he also has the ability to cover CM if needed. The other option is to bring in a player better than MN/CK/PO and bump the personnel down the order, but I'm not sure we can get much better at our level than those three so it could cause more disruption than is worth.

Bazshuayi

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

So why I we still £100m in debut?

We were £100m in debt when they bought the club in 2010?

Don't understand. ;hmm

I think, after selling our home, increased sponsorship, capacity and generally everything, they forgot to pay it off? Or bought stuff with it like players ;hmm

In any case, they're supposed to be smart businessmen so its been around for years and they're not panicking about it. So I am not going to (unless it means less transfers now and in the future ;nonono ;weep ;wahoo )

MrsGrey

;nonono Buying players?

Sheesh, they'll be paying wages next.

Bazshuayi

Ok calm down, the Upton gentlemans X1 will never go professional ;nonono

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Maybe they consolidated all their debts into one affordable monthly payment, and didn't read the small print.

Another victim of Ocean Finance.

OldCastleSwift

Apparently Sully has said, "hopefully we'll buy one or two more" and also hasn't ruled out a move for Wilshere...

FlorinRaduclious

I'll be disappointed if Feghouli leaves. Many pros/former pros have stated how hard and different playing in the prem is to the rest of Europe and it can take up to a season to adjust. Plus he had that injury at the start of the season. I thought as the season got going he proved a good option. The lad has pace, can dribble, a good cross, even had some decent one touch stuff when on the break. He had a good engine too and although his tackling isn't anything to write home about he tracked back and hustled when we were in defensive mode. I think he can be a useful player for us. I'd definitely like him to get another season. If we get someone in from Europe again to replace him it will take them time to adjust, where as he now hopefully is past that stage. Just my opinion.

FlorinRaduclious

The more I look at it unless we sell either Carroll or Sakho I can't see us bringing in another striker unfortunately. We only really play one CF, and currently we have 'Lil Pea, AC, Sakho, Fletcher, Martinez, and Ant and Ayew can play there at a push. Of course in pref maybe N.S.Fletcher and Martinez would get season loans and we bring in another striker, but for a good one I'm not sure that will free enough wages. Obvs we all know AC and Sakho's injury issues but we still have to pay their wages currently too. I would ideally sell Sakho to provide the wages and space and bring in another striker but we tried that last season and couldn't sell. I feel we'll have to wait until next season when we let Sakho leave as his contract runs out, then we bring in another (hopefully) top striker option.