Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • I'd rather have a world class goalkeeper for this season alone than two average ones for the next five years.

    If Hart leaves next summer, we'll spend the money on somebody else better than Randy and Adrian.
  • Which one, billy?
  • Can't see many better keepers. Unless we carve out a 30m wedge for Butland
  • Randy and Adrian made a lot of gaffes last season. Their combined mistakes probably lost us as many points as any other team's in the league.
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    Bit of noise on Twitter about Brentford's Bentley. West Ham fan apparently, and only 24 so may be more prepared to be understudy to Hart as part of his development.
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    I would not blame Adrian for leaving as I would think that anyone with his experience would be looking for a No 1 slot, however, I would also think that a younger keeper would relish the idea of being Harts understudy.

    By all accounts, Hart is a good egg and if I was Bilic I would look to manage his expectations and make the mentoring of a capable but inexperienced No 2 as part of the deal.

    You have to be careful of keepers, I was at the Bradford City game when Shaka went off injured in the first couple of minutes, a very young Stephen Bywater came off the bench to make his debut, as he ran on you could tell that his chest was pumped and he must have felt 10 feet tall, unfortunately for him, he made a mess of his first cross and looked terrified of the ball for the rest of the game and let in 4 goals.

    We ended up winning it 5-4, it was great game and the atmosphere was electric, the crowd knew that Bywater was vulnerable and it was just as clear that the team were determined not to lose that game and I recall Rio in particular going up to Bywater and putting his arms over his shoulder at the end.

    The thing is, although he never made the position his own for us when in the premiership, Bywater was a decent keeper and he made a good career for himself in the championship, I wonder if he might have made the grade had he been better protected and prepared for his debut with us.

    Just rambling thoughts

  • A club source said “A medical has been taking place and it is touch and go whether the results come back tonight or tomorrow because blood and heart test tests usually take more than a few hours”

    “We would love to have it all completed this evening in order to make an official announcement but if that is not possible, all things equal, we will do so tomorrow”

    Medical done. Quotes from claret and hugh article. Announcement tonight or tomorrow.
  • The problem with our keepers is we had two broadly at the same level, neither of which would be of the quality to help us kick on (I know we finished well in slavs first season, however this was largely to do with the number of goals we scored)

    If Adrian goes too, it is likely that we end up with one keeper better than the other with the other being slightly inferior to adrian/randy - personally I think is ok?

    Adrian's performance in 2015/16 was good enough to get him a call up to the Spanish squad in August
  • I Agree.

    I think if we loose Randolph and Adrian because we have loaned Hart for one season it will be poor business.
  • Not sure why Ranfy and Adrian are being dissed. Made a couple of mistakes apiece but what keeper didn't? Loris, Mignolet, Cech, any Citeh keeper made plenty.
  • ;weep would be gutted if Adrian went but would understand why he would .however it would leave a hole and if Hart left after this season ,could turn into our striker problem all over again .and with our luck what happens if Hart gets injured
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    Is this our Baz? Not the pic but the twitter account quoted?
  • Although I would be disappointed if Adrian left he did make more than a couple of mistakes last year that resulted in him being dropped. I think we needed improvement in the goal keeping dept and if it means we get a new keeper as back up them I am ok with that. It's all talk at the min until Adrian says he wants to go I am not going to worry about it
  • McHammer said:

    Screenshot_2017-07-24-19-18-07

    Is this our Baz? Not the pic but the twitter account quoted?

    Twitter is anti Baz because it only allows short tweets. That's not working for me ;whistle He's an imposter Baz and our only link is that I once had to take a little P in Stepney ;run
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    What keeper hasn't made mistakes? I struggle to think of a keeper I would want in the PL apart from a handful who would probably be extremely difficult to attract. While the two might be replaceable it seems like there are an awful lot variables. Adrian was much better at the end of the season when he regained his spot - whoever replaces him, if we do have to start from nothing next season might not settle with us or the league (if coming from outside the PL).

    Adrian's an average PL goalkeeper but so are most of them, including most of the keepers playing for the top teams.
  • Outcast,

    Agreed, but I think Hart is above average, which is why I'm saying I'd rather have a top 'keeper for one season, than a dime-a-dozen for the next five, especially if having Hart on loan gives us even a slight chance of signing him permanently.

    I think the idea that Randy and Adrian are decidedly average will be concurred by where they end up, which at best will be bottom five of the PL, backup somewhere else or Championship.

    Don't get me wrong, I really like them both. I just don't think they have any qualities we'll ever miss, apart from being characters.
  • Junior jack tweeted this 40mins ago...

    Good news within the hour! Keep checking all Whu platforms. ⚒⚒ especially Facebook
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    FB notifications are on and I'm not going to bed for at least an hour ;thumbsup
  • ;wahoo
  • Head to Facebook Live, apparently... 5 minutes ago.
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    Can't see anything.

    I've got the 'ump.

    Just flippin' tell us. ;doh

  • Junior jack tweeted this 40mins ago...

    Good news within the hour! Keep checking all Whu platforms. ⚒⚒ especially Facebook

    Ok so I've decided I'm not going to bed ;hmm
  • I am. It's really irritating.

    Given that we all know what the announcement is going to be anyway.
  • It feels like Christmas Eve when I was about 8 coyi
  • Big statement from the club this week

    I'm a little bit nervous with buying these players at the age they are but theoretically they should have 2 more years of their prime (excluding Zab) at least

    4 players who genuinely slot straight into the first XI cannot complain

    I'd be surprised to see many more moves this summer if I'm being honest, maybe a 3rd choice striker like Gray who wouldn't mean we had to break the bank

    Think if we can get that wrapped up maybe see if we can snatch one or 2 prospects that are about for long term views

    In other news I'm 99% sure Feghouli is going which disappoints me (especially for or only £4mil) but can imagine he was on pretty heavy wages and the 4 players we brought in probably added £400k a week to our wage bill so the money has to come from somewhere (although I'd much much much much prefer it to be Snodgrass leaving)
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    So three excellent first XI signings.

    Still feel we need that one CM option. We've been going with Noble and Kouyate for 3 years now and Noble, Kouyate and Obiang for the past 2. Need fresh blood in there to bump up competition.

    But other than that, we are well set now, providing one of Sakho/Carroll regain fitness. If we're deciding we need to write them off, then another forward is needed. Gray would be a good back-up striker IMO.

    Just need to shift on a couple now.
  • To be honest Carroll's fitness might benefit from not being the number one striker anymore. It can't help being needed every minute possible when your body is as fragile as his.

    We might find he's available more often if he plays less minutes per game.
  • Sky mentioned today that Brighton made an enquiry for Snodgrass.
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