Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

Fortuneseeker

Sky are reporting that Huddersfield look to be be busy in the market Ince & Malone to add to the players they purchased last week. Meanwhile in the East End? ;hmm

Hamstew

It's all starting to feel very familiar

claretandbluesky

Don't worry some Turkish fella will be unveiled next week.

Joking aside I am quite happy we have heard nothing as last year we were pretty critical, and rightly so, that the club were making statements about players and big signings etc and we felt they should work more discreetly behind the scenes, so my hope is they are doing so and currently have around five deals being worked on of which two or three will get secured very soon.

I would imagine the problem we have is that we want to sign at the top of our level and the top of our level is just under top 6 meaning there are always more high profile clubs that our targets would like to go to, and so they will keep us waiting as long as possible until they feel their options will not go any higher.

I also feel once Arsenal buy a striker things will begin to move, in fact once Arsenal bring in a striker and Chelsea buy Lukaku then everything will begin to move.

Hammerex

Well I think that we should be on par with Everton, just outside the top six,and yet
they have spent nearing 100mil.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Everton sold Stones for 50 Mil and are going to sell Lukaku for 70 m that puts them well ahead of us in spending power

Hammerex

Yeah, I agree, but if we can sell AC for the same amount we would be on par with them. ;pray

OldCastleSwift

It really is a struggle. We basically have to wait for other clubs to make their signings (Arsenal and Chelsea specifically) before we can even consider Giroud or Bats, and even then have to wait for those players to see if they get a better offer elsewhere.

Presumably it will the the same for Iheanacho, Hernandez and pretty much any other half decent striker out there.

So I guess we just carry on waiting...

Pearces_Left_Foot

http://sportwitness.co.uk/west-ham-transfer-deal-close-completion-following-advanced-talks/

Feghouli on his way out ;hmm

OldCastleSwift

I sincerely hope not. He showed some decent promise last season and well worth a second season to prove his worth.

And £4.5m?! An international forward with decent European footballing pedigree. I'd not be best pleased if he went, especially for so little.

Pearces_Left_Foot

By the end of the season he was looking decent give us more options in midfield would definitely keep him.

Vorselaarhammer

We have four RW at the moment so this is an area we some space for reduction.

Snodgrass has said he wants to be on the right (but he is LF) and he would be behind Antonio and Ayew.

So if we was to get rid of one then it would be either Feghouli or Snodgrass.

We need a LW where it seems only Lanzini is the option at the moment.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Would rather flog Snodgrass of the two he would bring in more money and did less than Feghouli last year

ASLEFshrugged

We've got plenty of options on the left.

Ayew played on the left at Marseille, he only switched to the right at Swansea, Antonio played mostly on the left at Forest while Snodgrass and Valencia have both played on the left.

I'd rather have Lanzini in the middle

Yeoldhammer

Adrian / Randolph

Byram / Zabaleta

Fonte / Ogbonna

Reid / Collins

Masuaku / Cresswell

Obiang / Fernandes

Kouyate / Noble

Lanzini / Ayew

Valencia / Snodgrass

Feghouli / Antonio

Carroll / Sakho / Fletcher


That is what we have at the moment.

Move on Valencia / Snodgrass / Sakho

Bring in Hernandez / Gray or Grioud or Inhenacho / Tadic


That'll do me.

Huttonhammer

Yeold

We probably wont get Giroud or Ihenacho as we really are not showing enough intent as usual.

So you are pretty much saying you would be happy with another season watching football as poor as last season.
How can we have Carroll and Sakho who will only play a handfull of games and fletcher who Bilic has no faith in as our strikers?
Noble was poor last season and is not going to get any better, Valencia doesnt want to be here. Snodgrass has lost his confidence completely, Feghouli is hit and miss , more miss. Byram, Fonte and Ayew did not shine at all last season.

This squad needs a good shake up with a number of decent signings but this window is pretty much following our normal ones.

We make a lot of noise and are linked with loads of players but other clubs get in first as we never really put up the money required or show the proper intent needed to get quality players that make a difference.

We will end up with more players like Zabaletta. Players let go by their clubs and are at the end of their careers or loans of shocking players who will hardly get a game as our manager doesnt really want them.

To move forward we need to buy three or four very decent players and get rid of a number of very average ones. However we are so slow at moving for the decent players (is this done intentionally so the club doesnt have to spend big money but looks as if the directors are making an effort) that I dont think any players we do want to buy feel that the club shows enough intent on moving forward and improving as per Payet!!!!) therefore they go elsewhere.

The two Daves need to get their act together and spend some money so we can attract other players who feel the club wants to go somewhere as good players dont want to join a team that is going backwards.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

How do you know how much intent we are showing?

Results don't always indicate how much intent has gone into something.

Expat_Hammer

What name is Rav trading under these days ?

Looks like his namesake may end up with 'arry at Brum

OldCastleSwift

Lacazette announcement due soon. Could this be the start of the domino effect...?

I guess I'm hoping this will push Giroud our way, but he'll probably wait to see what happens with Sanchez. I suspect if he's behind Lacazette and Sanchez, he'll look for a move; if Sanchez goes and he's second choice only to Lacazette, then maybe he'll be happy to stay ;hmm

MrsGrey

Huttonhammer said:

The two Daves need to get their act together and spend some money so we can attract other players who feel the club wants to go somewhere as good players dont want to join a team that is going backwards.

What amount do you think should be budgeted for? I mean, how much would they have to spend (transfer + signing on fee) that you would judge to be an acceptable sum? And if you'd hazard an amount for wages (if you think wages should be raised to attract good players) I'd be interested in that too.

I'm just asking because various people comment about the owners being reluctant to spend big etc.... which might mean different things to different people.

Huttonhammer

Jorderz

Because as per usual we are linked with every decent player going and have been for a while but we have only Zabaletta to show for it and I dont know any other club that showed any interest in him and he was cheap!!

Many teams around us who we should be looking to try and beat have made moves and spent good money.
Bournemouth, Everton -nearly 85 million already, West Brom . Even teams coming up have got decent players in i.e. Newcastle , Huddersfield.

We leave it so late we end up getting loans of players not wanted by their clubs or paying over the odds for average players.

Yeoldhammer

Hutton bottom part of my earlier post ;ok

Barney

'we make a lot of noise' - last year yes but not this year. all the noise is from journalists and supposed ITKs who dont even do proper research and will say anything to get clicks.
full marks to the owners this year for keeping quiet. It is too soon to make judgements on the transfer window although I suspect for some the owners will be damned what ever we do. I am going to be optimistic and hope we get 3 or four good signings and I will judge the outcome when the window is closed.

Yeoldhammer

No striker before first Pre-season game = Fail in my book. Not long left.

MrsGrey

Huttonhammer said:

We leave it so late we end up getting loans of players not wanted by their clubs or paying over the odds for average players.

But how do you know that it's the club leaving it late - it is just as likely to be the players leaving it late to make a decision.

OR, the owning club not giving us permission to speak to their player until after that club has got a replacement in....

we don't control how quickly a deal is wrapped up, even in cases where all 3 parties view if favourably from day 1.

Huttonhammer

Mrs grey

Whatever it takes to get a decent player that will make a difference needs to be spent.

West ham have only once ever spent more than 15 million on a player . 15 million only gets an average premier league player and with the amount of money that clubs get from tv revenue , the sale of our old ground etc that I think shows a complete lack of intent to mix it with the bigger teams.

Huttonhammer

Yeold

I saw that but I was going through all the players that I feel will be problems next season.

IronHerb

Giroud said he wants to see his contract out and Everton are also 'interested' but they haven't bought him yet!
Iheanacho is in a legal wrangle of his own along with City who are before EUFA or FIFA and may be banned from the transfer market. Leicester are 'interested' but haven't bought him yet!
Costa hasn't left Chelsea yet and Lukako hasn't been bought so Batshuayi cant go anywhere yet.

There is also the chance that none of them actually want to play for us as they are looking at CL football.

steve

in other words ;weep ;weep ;weep

Pearces_Left_Foot

Man Utd have only signed one player so far Lindeof you can't judge a transfer window in early July . I think we will break our transfer record this window and I will decide how good a window it is at the end. Don't believe the hype in the media its mainly driven by players,clubs and agents to push fees up.

MrsGrey

Huttonhammer said:

Many teams around us who we should be looking to try and beat have made moves and spent good money.
Bournemouth, Everton -nearly 85 million already, West Brom .

If you want to make meaningful comparisons, you need more accurate figures than these, imo.

Show me the accurate net figures, and over a couple of seasons:

For example, last summer Everton spent £1m net. This summer, it's £65 not £85 net.

Last summer Bournemouth spent almost nothing. Around £7m or £8m net.

We spent £35m net last summer . Summer before £24m net.

(Figures from transfermarket, so not sure if they are accurate down to the last penny - lots of deals are never officially disclosed.)