The Transfer Window 2: Electric Boogaloo

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  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited July 2018
    Tbf Romeu is Southamptons best player, or at least one of their top ones

    Kouyate has been a decent player for us but this season he was pretty woeful and the season before was pretty poor again

    Add that he lacks the passing ability for Pellegrinis system and is 28, think £12-14mil is fair game

    Pretty sure pellegrini said in his conference anyone who leaves will be replaced
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    I was referring more to Obiang than Kouyate but still feel 15m for Kouyate should be the minimum we ask for also.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    We have too many central midfielders who don't have a shot on them. I would say Noble, Kouyate, Obiang (apart from the spurs goal) maybe Jack lack the ability to ping one in from the edge of the box on a regular basis.

    I would be happy to cash in on Kouyate.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Obiang gives some balance, is good at getting himself around in those midfield areas and has the most ambition (and often ability) to play passes that start counter attacks. When he's on form.

    Kouyate's a very dynamic players, who pushes the game forward when he's playing well.

    They both have flaws and I'm not against either going for the right price but they also offer what our other CMs don't. Noble, Wilshere, Cullen (and Rice) are all a bit similar. Fernandes feels like filler whenever he plays - it looks good but I'm not sure what he does.

    We'd need to see replacements who add the kinds of things Obiang and Kouyate do - definitely not someone like Drinkwater.
  • yoyoyoyo







    BARCA TO WATCH QUINA

    Barcelona are sending an official to Finland on Thursday to watch West Ham’s highly-rated teenager Domingos Quina play in the U19 European Championship semi-finals.

    Sky sources understand Barca will discuss the possibility of a deal to sign the Portugal youngsters, who has been impressing scouts during the tournament.

    Sky Sports News reported earlier this week that Barcelona were the latest club to inquire about Quina’s availability.





  • LukerzLukerz
    edited July 2018
    Watching Obiang last night (& the fact he got another 45 mins), he didn't strike me as somebody who looks to be off in the immediate future. Was very engaged & animated.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Given the way the rumour mill 'works' (for a given value of 'work, obvs.), it could be that

    there is nothing in the rumour at all;

    the club have said they would like him to stay, but if he wants to do the off they won't stand in his way;

    the club want shot as they have a replacement in mind, but need the squad space;

    a mixture of some of the above;

    none of the above.

    I hope that clears things up. ;puzzled
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    As clear a puddle of mud.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Still think we need to balance the books somehow

    Dunno who but expect to see several outgoings

    Hope antonio and Obiang have done enough to convince Pellgrini to keep them

    Oxford, Quina, Byram, Kouyate and Hugill could probably recoup about £30mil think that wouldnt weaken us too much
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I'd assume if Hugill and Kouyate left they would need replacing, so I'm not sure that would balance the books that much.
  • Tomw85Tomw85
    I would expect a little more than £30m for those players. I think we should only consider offers that are at least as per the below, if not more given the over inflated market.

    Oxford - £10-15m
    Quina - £5-10m
    Byram - £5m
    Kouyate - £10-15m
    Hugill - £10m
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited July 2018
    Went for the latest rumour values

    Oxford £10m (sky?)
    Quima £0.6m (apparantly)
    Kouyate £10m (Palace rumoured bid)
    Byram £4m (recoup)
    Hugill £5m (we will make a loss)
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited July 2018
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    I'd assume if Hugill and Kouyate left they would need replacing, so I'm not sure that would balance the books that much.

    I think we already need one forward to replace Andy. If we got one in, then maybe Arnie, Hernandez & the new ST would be enough, with the likes of Antonio, Anderson, Yarmolenko etc being able to stand in if necessary. I don't see any future here for Hugill, especially as he's been omitted from the last two pre-season games.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Grey, you could argue that pretty much anyone we could end up selling would need to be replaced

    Think we could afford to lose Hugill without needing a replacement if it means we can generate some cash

    Wouldnt be surprised to see the club replace them with loanees or freebies (linked with free agent Ben Arfa today)
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited July 2018
    No club is going to pay £5-10m for Quina.

    He is untested (never mind unproven) at senior level.


    What club that would want him to go straight into the 1st team can afford that kind of money? What club that wants him 'for the future' would be willing t pay that?

    Any financial benefit to us is going to come from a % of his sell-on fees 5 years down the line.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Can't recall this window anyone at the club including Pelle and Sullivan saying that we need to sell to balance the books.
    Pelle even this week stated that if anyone left we'd need to look at replacing them.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Don't get this assumption that we need to balance the books; the club spent very little money last summer (around £35m) on fees & we've recouped a lot since then too, as well as before (Payet etc). I hope the club have 1) realised that in order to progress we have to match the spending of other clubs & 2) decided that having a quality manager on paper who they can trust, means that they are prepared to offer him a higher budget.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited July 2018
    As it stands, we have 25 senior players * ** (26 if you include Moses Makasi) currently at the club, so it is not like we are overloaded with players.

    I would imagine that from this point, the club will be taking the position of only bringing in a player if we lose a player.

    * where senior = over 21 to be included in 25 list

    ** if my working out is correct
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    I agree with you lukerz but guess people like me are thinking about ffp and how that pans out for us so maybe assume we may have to let some go
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited July 2018
    In talks with Inter over another Joao Mario loan, according to DiMarzio. Inter babe softened their stance on a permanent sale.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Inter have a babe doing transfers? ;hmm
  • LukerzLukerz
    PrestonHammer said:

    Inter have a babe doing transfers? ;hmm

    ;lol

    Meant to read ‘have’ but I’ve done a ‘pards’ on the old predictive ;lol
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I just thought you must know them really well. ;carew
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    edited July 2018
    'Pards' ;lol

    He was right about Harry Maguire.

    He is a legend ;bowdown (pards)
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    25 senior players? Isn't that the maximum possible we are allowed for the season

    GK: Adrian Fab (Trott)
    RB: Zab Fredericks Byram
    LB: Cressy Arthur
    CB: Balbuena Oggy Diop Reid (INJ) (Rice) (Oxford)
    CM: Noble Wilshere Obiang Kouyate Cullen Fernandes
    AM: Anderson Yarmolenko Antonio Snodgrass Lanzini (INJ) (Holland) (Sead)
    ST: Arnie Hernandez Hugill Carroll (INJ) (Martinez)

    Count that as 26 senior players, 3 of whom have long term injuries

    Would say that we are pretty well stocked atm
  • LukerzLukerz
    You could argue that you could leave out Reid, Lanzini & Carroll from the 25, freeing up extra space.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Sorry, Josh! I'd left him out for some reason. With Moses Makasi that makes 27 'senior' players, so 2 of those can't go on the squad list.

    What I meant by 'not over-loaded' was that there wasn't any pressing need to get rid of many players.

    If Cullen and Makasi went on loan, for example, that would trim the list to 25.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Aren't a couple of them 21 or under ;hmm
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    The ones in the brackets are U21, so 26 excluding Rice, Oxford, Trott, Holland, Martinez & Sead

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Lukerz, Lanzini definitely ;ok

    Depends on the prognosis of the other 2 ... if 3 months is still looking likely, then I'd say they have to be named. Come the Christmas rush, and likelihood of other players having winter injuries, we'll need as many players as possible to be available, imo.
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