The Transfer Window 2: Electric Boogaloo

OldCastleSwift

Losing Obiang would be to the detriment of the squad, but I don't think we'd miss Kouyate, to be honest. He was a liability in midfield last season.

£14m would be good business, IMO, so long as it's reinvested in another midfielder.

Still think we'll get Drinkwater on loan if nothing else.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

£14mil is better, I'd deffo take it

Does that mean a new DM is coming...IF we lose both we are dangerously short (already are even if we dont sell)

Lukerz

In other news, Rob Green is joining Chelsea.

OldCastleSwift

Lukerz said:

In other news, Rob Green is joining Chelsea.

McHammer

chicagohammer

Mc - that really is quite disturbing ;wink

baracks_a_hammer

It’s a good job we managed to wrap up the Anderson deal before the Lazio president got wind of the sums of money being banded about for Richarlison

yoyo

Sky sources: Crystal Palace are in talks with West Ham United over the signing of midfielder Cheikh Kouyate.

SSN reporter earlier this window that West Ham were listening to offers and value Kouyate at around £10m

Lukerz

Well I have no problem with moving Kouyate and Obiang on is they are replaced, and those replacements are improvements. I can only assume they will be replaced as leaving us with a midfield of Noble, Wilshere, Fernandes and Cullen doesn’t suggest top 10 challenge any time soon.

Cuz1

I think in the exaggerated transfer market he’s worth more but if it’s reinvested I’d still be happy with the transfer going ahead and with the managers/ boards decision even though he can play in a couple of positions in the team

Lukerz

Yeoldhammer said:

Obiang for less than 10m is ridiculous. just outright reject the bid as laughable.

Out of him and Kouyate he is the one I’d keep, but at present £10m is about right. He is a CM who doesn’t do anything overly well. He’s not attacking, creative or defensive, doesn’t score regularly or assist often, so I’d say £10m is about right. Kouyate is the more valuable player (at his best you know he is a powerhouse who drives through midfield) but he’s lost all the qualities he used to have, probably just gone stale and needs a change.

whupathman

Pelle obviously wants a major shake up and moving on players he doesn't rate

Vorselaarhammer

I think combined they make an excellent player but they lack each other's qualities...

If we sell both then we must replace with one too quality DM and maybe a backup..

Bazshuayi

We've already brought in 7 with weeks to go. The way it seems they've been planning/studying for a fair time I'd guess (with people like Drinkwater in mind) they have targets still and, as we all know, those last knockings of the transfer window always throw up opportunities (buying or loaning from top 6 clubs MF or further afield).

I dont particularly want Obiang to go but I do actually trust Pelle and H'loss have got things in hand allied to Sullivan backing them in terms of ins and outs

Then again, I've been accused of trusting too much and being a bit on the naive side ;hmm

EXETERHAMMER

I like both Kouyate and Obiang. Kouyate has in particular served the team well. If they are sold we need two replacements of first team quality. Otherwise we would be woefully short in midfield.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Im happy for both to go if it means we can get in an upgrade, but i'd prefer we get a little more than £10mil for each

In an ideal world though i'd prefer we keep Obiang, just feel he has enough about him to do well this year

McHammer

Strong links up here in Scotland linking us with a £3 million move for Rangers star Josh Windass (son of Dean). He is a goalscoring winger/attacking midfielder and has had a few run ins with the fans. Can be lazy at times. Scores lots away from home but struggles when teams sit back against Rangers at home.

Not sure we need him tbh

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Given Snodgrass seems like hes done enough to stay (somehow) it seems a bit unneccesary

We also have Holland who impressing again in preseason and Sead & Samuelsen whos futures are still

Guess at £3mil though its a pretty low risk move, especially if Antonio moves on as expected

Yeoldhammer

Lukerz said:

Yeoldhammer said:

Obiang for less than 10m is ridiculous. just outright reject the bid as laughable.

Out of him and Kouyate he is the one I’d keep, but at present £10m is about right. He is a CM who doesn’t do anything overly well. He’s not attacking, creative or defensive, doesn’t score regularly or assist often, so I’d say £10m is about right. Kouyate is the more valuable player (at his best you know he is a powerhouse who drives through midfield) but he’s lost all the qualities he used to have, probably just gone stale and needs a change.

He defends well and keeps play moving. Until his injury he was playing okay nothing brilliant but in todays market. A first team premier league player in his Prime at 10m is laughable. Do you think Southampton would sell Romeu for 10m ?

I would be looking at a minimum of 15m each for Obiang and Kouyate. Nothing less.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Tbf Romeu is Southamptons best player, or at least one of their top ones

Kouyate has been a decent player for us but this season he was pretty woeful and the season before was pretty poor again

Add that he lacks the passing ability for Pellegrinis system and is 28, think £12-14mil is fair game

Pretty sure pellegrini said in his conference anyone who leaves will be replaced

Yeoldhammer

I was referring more to Obiang than Kouyate but still feel 15m for Kouyate should be the minimum we ask for also.

McHammer

We have too many central midfielders who don't have a shot on them. I would say Noble, Kouyate, Obiang (apart from the spurs goal) maybe Jack lack the ability to ping one in from the edge of the box on a regular basis.

I would be happy to cash in on Kouyate.

OutcastLondoner

Obiang gives some balance, is good at getting himself around in those midfield areas and has the most ambition (and often ability) to play passes that start counter attacks. When he's on form.

Kouyate's a very dynamic players, who pushes the game forward when he's playing well.

They both have flaws and I'm not against either going for the right price but they also offer what our other CMs don't. Noble, Wilshere, Cullen (and Rice) are all a bit similar. Fernandes feels like filler whenever he plays - it looks good but I'm not sure what he does.

We'd need to see replacements who add the kinds of things Obiang and Kouyate do - definitely not someone like Drinkwater.

yoyo

BARCA TO WATCH QUINA

Barcelona are sending an official to Finland on Thursday to watch West Ham’s highly-rated teenager Domingos Quina play in the U19 European Championship semi-finals.

Sky sources understand Barca will discuss the possibility of a deal to sign the Portugal youngsters, who has been impressing scouts during the tournament.

Sky Sports News reported earlier this week that Barcelona were the latest club to inquire about Quina’s availability.

Lukerz

Watching Obiang last night (& the fact he got another 45 mins), he didn't strike me as somebody who looks to be off in the immediate future. Was very engaged & animated.

grey_til_I_dye

Given the way the rumour mill 'works' (for a given value of 'work, obvs.), it could be that

there is nothing in the rumour at all;

the club have said they would like him to stay, but if he wants to do the off they won't stand in his way;

the club want shot as they have a replacement in mind, but need the squad space;

a mixture of some of the above;

none of the above.

I hope that clears things up. ;puzzled

PrestonHammer

As clear a puddle of mud.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Still think we need to balance the books somehow

Dunno who but expect to see several outgoings

Hope antonio and Obiang have done enough to convince Pellgrini to keep them

Oxford, Quina, Byram, Kouyate and Hugill could probably recoup about £30mil think that wouldnt weaken us too much

grey_til_I_dye

I'd assume if Hugill and Kouyate left they would need replacing, so I'm not sure that would balance the books that much.

Tomw85

I would expect a little more than £30m for those players. I think we should only consider offers that are at least as per the below, if not more given the over inflated market.

Oxford - £10-15m
Quina - £5-10m
Byram - £5m
Kouyate - £10-15m
Hugill - £10m