The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

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  • Is there any reason why Dm would not be interested in someone else, say.......Everton

    Just a thought

    Chicago, can see why he might be interested in Everton but if the rumours are right and kenwright goes as well as sam then I can’t see Everton being interested in Moyes again imo
  • Cuz, I agree that I doubt if Everton would be seriously interested in DM, however, I do not doubt for an instant that DM would be interested in Everton.
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    How will the other candidates feel now that Gold has said that?

    This is my frustration too. Gold wants Moyes (this is at least the second time he's publicly stated it), but Sullivan is playing the field. I don't know whether Fonseca, Benitez, Pellegrini et al would be bothered about that, given Gold is the junior partner, but it really doesn't help us in the professional stakes.

    I would expect someone in Gold's position to field the questions with more professionalism and say we're going through an invterview process and will hire the man we think is best for West Ham United, and he nearly managed it, before unnecessarily throwing in the 'I hope it's David Moyes' bit right at then end.
  • Exactly.

    So a company is hiring to fill a vacant position and, whilst going through the process, a key figure at the top, probably involved in the final decision, publicly states his preference to who he wants to get it, when there are more interviews to come.
  • It’s happening at Everton to a certain degree.
  • We are in position to get the best manager we can so why not interview the best available candidates and make a decision. They are doing it early (spoken to Moyes and Foncesca already) and then see where you are in a weeks time and go for who the board thinks best. My only criteria would be to get it sorted as quickly as possible
  • I doubt DG will have much say in the decision.
  • Buying time so they have an excuse later on to say to why X Y Z transfer was not done.
  • edited May 2018
    IronHerb said:

    I doubt DG will have much say in the decision.

    I don't know. He's Joint Chairman so I'd assume he has quite a bit if sway (unless it's purely joint chairman in name only).

    But either way, saying what he said doesn't help the situation at all, IMO.
  • edited May 2018
    In other words, they are actively trying to do a bad job?

    I don't believe that for one second.

    Ineptitude, ego, poor judgement.. all these I can see.

    But deliberately dragging their heels on appointing a manager and risking not getting the one they want just so they can have an excuse for failures in the transfer window? That's a conspiracy too far for me.
  • edited May 2018
    Whilst I would have preferred the club to simply roll over Moyes' contract, on reflection, what they are doing makes sense.

    His fixed term appointment was effectively an emergency measure, so the normal round of interviews/ideas for taking the club forward etc, which you would expect for a permanent managerial appointment, almost certainly didn't take place.

    Whilst I would be happy with Moyes, clearly others wouldn't, so it seems to me exactly right that the club would look at a range of options before committing themselves.

    Most managerial appointments are made after a number of candidates are considered. Any manager who only wants to be first choice is free to remove himself from the process.

    To react as though this is something unparalleled in the history of football appointments seems to me to be an overreaction.
  • edited May 2018
    The 'interview' is a two-way process:

    the club wants to know what the manager will bring to the table, how he will achieve target, what he sees as priorities, what budget he would want,, what length of contract would he want, what break clauses or release clauses he wants etc

    the candidate wants to know what targets he would be set, how much he'd be given to work with, what bonuses and penalties will be in the contract, scope for bringing in his own support staff/medics/scouts, is he answerable to the chairman/board or a DOF and so on.

    The club weighs it all up and makes their choice, while the candidates can decide at any point that it's not for them and withdraw his candidacy, no hard feelings.

    The more thorough this process, the fewer problems in the future.

    Given that many fans have criticised the club/board for a less than professional approach to running the club, I'd have thought some might see this process as a good thing.

    Shows what I know.
  • Seems like they are going through a robust process and considering their options. I am just getting prepared for the outcrys on here when the announcement is made.
    Whoever they choose, including Moyes, Ihope the majority can repect the decision and get behind the manager from day 1.
  • MrsGrey,

    Totally agree about the process being a good thing but once again the club are shooting themselves in the foot by stupid comments to the media.

    The only comment about our future manager should be "We are currently in the process of looking to appoint a full time manager and hope to have someone in place asap."

    There should be no comments at all from the club about who is their preferred manager is.
  • We know how its going to go...

    May
    > We couldn't do any transfer dealings in May as we wanted to appoint a manager and know the players that the manager wanted in

    June
    >Due to the world cup we were unable to conduct any transfer business however we have identified a range of targets and options

    July
    >The manager is enjoying pre-season and has stated we do not need to sign any new players. There is money available to the manager. Andy Carroll is fit again and will be like a new signing.

    August P1
    >We tried hard to secure our targets however the end of the transfer window is a hard time to get deals completed and done by, we believe the squad is strong enough for a top half finish.

    August P2
    >With the injury to Andy Carroll we have decided to loan veteran striker Kevin Phillips on a 6 months contract.
  • Big Sam's now available...
  • Grey/MrsGrey, thank you both for a sane, sensible explanation of the process. ;clap ;ok
  • IronHerb said:

    I doubt DG will have much say in the decision.

    I’d say owning at least 25% of the club and also around half the debt he will have quite a bit to say in the decision......

    Just not sure who he really does want, because he’s been saying conflicting things....

    On top of what he said yesterday, the other week he told Baz cox (well known fan raising money for Isla) after the Leicester game when asked “surely you don’t want this grief and abuse week in week out”

    Gold replied “he’s (Moyes) not what we want”
  • People can argue as to whether Gold's stated preference for Moyes was a gaff or not (although without knowing the full background we can't really be sure), but at least he has clarified the situation.

    Most newspapers had it as 'West Ham looking to replace Moyes' when, in fact, it is 'West Ham looking to appoint manager', with Moyes being one of those under consideration.'
  • Big Sam will take his 6m lay on the beach and wait for our call around the first week of october
  • steve said:

    Big Sam will take his 6m lay on the beach and wait for our call around the first week of october

    'Hello Sam. It's Dave...'
  • For immediate release ......

    In order to speed up the process, I can announce that, with much reluctance, I have decided to withdraw my application. There is no longer any need to interview me.
  • He might come back a short while after leaving - like Carlton Cole did - you never know with West Ham!
  • Well at least they have acted quickly but they have to get this appointment right.as is being discussed on another thread, our board are not popular with the fans a the best of times.
    As for Moyes,thanks & well done, you kept us up.
  • I guessing it will be the Portuguese dude.

    "within the next ten days" Surely 7 to 10.... ;hmm
  • edited May 2018
    So he is gone less than 24 hours after DG said he’d like him to stay ;lol

    I see the OS has said that the club will make no further comment until the new manager is announced - is this another promise they intend to break?? ;hmm
  • "We are already taking steps to identify and recruit the manager we believe can take West Ham United forward in line with our ambitions. We aim to appoint a high-calibre figure who we feel will lead the Club into an exciting future for our loyal supporters within the next ten days."
    "High-calibre figure"

    "Exciting future"

    "Within the next ten days"

    Remind me, when is the season-ticket renewal date? ;wink
  • these rings true from the BBC comments section...

    Ha ha West Ham & Everton are bonkers they probably think they can unearth the next Poch but as Saints found that is probably a 1 in 10 chance. Both will probably appoint the next Pepa Mel or Pelligrino or DeBoer & by November be ringing the likes of Big Sam , Moyes, Hughes, Redknapp, Pulis to save them from losing the 200milllion a year gravy train they are on.
  • IMO it's gonna be Rafa.
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