The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...

Yeoldhammer

so from rumours we have

Fonseca
Emery
Benitez
Pellegrini
Dyche

grey_til_I_dye

Slizzy

What's 'scattergun'?

We have no idea how the board have decided to consider potential managers, or what criteria they are using.

They haven't come out and said anything (which I am assuming everyone is applauding.) Surely you aren't using meejah rumours to judge them?

Pearces_Left_Foot

I can't see Pellegrini joining as Chinese season still mid season and Dyche will probably stay at Burnley . Emery was at PSG and does n't speak English seems a step down to be honest. So Fonseca is available looks best bet, I think Rafa will only leave Newcastle if we offer him loads of money to spend and I can't see that happening

SuzanneClaret

MrsGrey

Wage hike?

for Rafa, or players ;puzzled

alderz

Rafa would be a big appointment, as it would indicate that they are happy to fulfil his wants and needs that Newcastle are not; namely some money to spend in the market.

Yeoldhammer

If we can't get Howe Unai Emery / Rafa Benitez I would be in favour of.

Not sure on Pellegrini don't think it would work.

Fonseca don't know much really.

OldCastleSwift

I read that as a hike in Rafa's wages.

The autonomy over transfers is key for me though. Give him money. Let him spend it.

Quite encouraged by this. Hopefully it's got some legs.

alderz

https://talksport.com/football/rafa-benitez-declares-he-only-talking-newcastle-despite-links-napoli-everton-and-leicester

That's from yesterday and includes some quotes:

"My future? I've heard so much talk, but I haven't spoken to [Napoli chairman] Aurelio de Laurentiis. I have a contract with Newcastle, I'm talking to them about my renewal.

"They made me some offers to stay here for a few more years, plus I have to manage my family. When I decided to go to Newcastle and stay there, even in the Championship, it was also because of my family.

"My priority is to stay in England. I'm only talking to Newcastle right now."

The interesting part is the last line, "right now". ;hmm

OldCastleSwift

Not sure that's a genuine tweet though ;hmm

'@SkySportsKeth'. I'd be surprised if Keith Downie would spell his name wrong in his own handle.

Just checked; his official handle is '@SkySports_Keith'

So yeah, no legs at all I suspect

madridhammer

I have to say that I'm pretty underwhelmed by just about every name that's been mentioned except maybe Benitez. I honestly think that Moyes is at least as good as all of them. By the way, I'm not saying that I think he's that brilliant either but none of the others particularly inspire me.

grey_til_I_dye

As OCS says, that is a spoof account skysportsketh (no 'i')

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Benitez woukd be a majot upgrade fir me

Offers everything good about Moyes plus more

Wouldnt mind the shaktar guy he seems exciting

But im not feeling confident

whupathman

This is west ham, we could get pep and mess things up

IronHerb

Pep and Messi? Oh!

;yercoat

whupathman

Messi will only be considered when he turns 45

baracks_a_hammer

No way Ashley is lettinb Rafa go IMO - he is no fool - if he plans to sell the club, it is worth far more with him at the helm than not.

IronHerb

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

ASLEFshrugged

IronHerb said:

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

That has certainly been the case at West Ham but it doesn't apply everywhere. WBA's current owners bought the club in September 2016 but Pulis continued as manager until November 2017.

baracks_a_hammer

IronHerb said:

But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.

He wouldn’t be the worst manager a new owner could inherit!!

ClaretandBlueforLife

MrsGrey said:

Daily Express says we are interested in Dyche.

Please, no.

What on earth would be the point?

Well if this is true or only half true this sums up my previous comment that none of us have that much faith/confidence that Sullivan & Gold will get this right. They may be good business people, but as far as matters football go they have no idea.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Grey - scattergun, just like their player transfer policy, bids and enquiries far and wide see which ones take the bait.

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.

All the while the owner of our great club is openly interviewing applicants at his house, jeez.

I think Moyes has probably done enough to warrant a crack at it, I’ve a sneaky feeling he could do okay, but he’s probably upset the regime with his leaks and mentality/culture comments, if he does stay let it be on his terms, so he can try and keep the ringmaster of this circus in check.

Otherwise Dave, walk away you’ve restored your reputation.

Lukerz

Wonder how the press got whiff of that Fonseca interview? Almost like they were tipped off by somebody wanting people to know we interviewed him. ;hmm

thornburyiron

Well I'm pretty certain it wasn't leaked by Moyes.

MrsGrey

His agent is Jorge Mendes.

You wouldn't get very good odds betting against him as the source of the 'leak'.

MrsGrey

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended

Yes there have. Have you not read this thread?

Plus, I assume you saw that the Benitez tweet thing that Suz posted was a fake, and that Benitez has been quoted saying he's not in talks with anybody other than Newcastle?

I can only see grounds for calling it 'scattergun' if you believe all the rumours and gossip that are being touted ... and believe them in the face of actual direct contradiction from the mouths of some of the involved parties.

Also, can you explain the difference between 'scattergun' and 'exploring the options rather than taking the first person that expresses an interest'? ;hmm

Cuz1

Wasn’t me and u get blame for everything

alderz

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.

It was widely reported a few years ago that Parker was our captain and not Upson. Just because the media believe or say something doesn't mean it's true. In a lot of cases I would say yeah go with the common reporting, but if Moyes said his contract ended Sunday night then I can't imagine too many other people know better than what he's said.

MrsGrey

Seeing as we are setting store by The Sun... ;wink
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6283978/west-ham-new-manager-david-moyes-future-uncertain/
'his contract ended at midnight on Sunday'.


It seems as though the earlier 'widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break' wasn't actually accurate.

You live and learn.

ClaretandBlueforLife

I can’t see Benitez coming anywhere near us with S&G in charge. I see now it looks likely that Alladuce is going to be paid off on the remaining 12 months of his contract. Any decent manager we look at will think West Ham Utd or Everton?.....er Everton it is then.
Fact is we have or had a decent manager in Moyes and given time he’ll do ok. There is no quick fix in football, never was, never will be.