Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)
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Avram Grant - unemployed
Sam Allardyce - unemployed
Slaven Bilic - unemployed
David Moyes (?) - unemployed
They may not be the best managers but I myself do not understand why the players at this club never seem to be able to play their best football consistently and why performances in the main are awful with very little passion.
Also players that join us seem to become hopeless after a while.
Having supported this club for so long like many on here I just do not understand why no matter who is in charge, things just never seem to improve for very long.
Bilic surely wasn’t as bad a manager as our players have made him look. His Croatia team were very good and I know results have been poor but he seems a nice man and I feel quite sad for him.
What on earth is wrong at this club?
What the players need more than anything now is a man to come in that they have confidence in, that they feel can steer them to safety, when Moyes walks through the door they will know he took Sunderland down last year after 10 years in the Premiership without more than a wimper, that he was sacked from spain within a year having achieved nothing and managed to be the man to fail to secure Champions league football for Man Utd for the first time since football was invented.
Why will they feel confident in his ability to manage them and steer them away from trouble?
Club isn't going forwards at all is going to the championship in a souls bowl of a stadium.
Moyes also wants an 18 month contract rather than the six months offered by the board
It is simply evidence that they haven't.
Which doesn't of course, address the fact that if you need someone quickly after you have sacked a manager, for example when you don't have a reasonable caretaker manager who can hold the fort for a few months, a replacement who is available quickly is preferable. The alternative - opening negotiations with someone at a good club, doing well, and persuading them to walk out mid-season to come to a club pretty much in crisis - is problematic.
(Yes, I know it might be easier t entice a working manager if you approached one at a small or struggling club, that's not doing well - they might jump at the chance to bail out .... and, erm, they'd be the sort of manager we would want to dig us out of a hole, yeah? ;puzzled )
But anyway, those points are moot because the owners won't pay compensation.
Unlike all the other owners who, when they have sacked a manager mid-term, and results are desperately needed to avoid relegation, manage to get a sexy new manager from another club. ;hmm
In that first season, he had a swagger about him and the team very much reflected that. He had a confident, refreshing, resilient manner and the team was very much in his image.
Since that horrendous start to last season and the Dimi situation, he seems to look like a man waiting for the chop every week. I’m not sure the players have stopped playing for him or don’t want him to turn it around, but maybe they look at him and think “are you up for this fight”, and their performances kind of reflect the managers demeanour.
If today is to be his last day, thanks for everything Slav and you have conducted yourself with intergerity and class since day one. I just think the job has got to steep for you.
Their three appointments since being here have required 0 compensation. Their next one looks likely to require 0 compensation.
Until the day they do pay another club for their manager, I will stand by the view that they won’t do so, based on their records to date.
Jan - Hull sack Phelan, they hire Silva who was unattached
Feb - Leicester sack Ranieri, they promote his assistant Shakespeare
Mar - Boro sack Karanka, they promote his assistant Agnew
September - Palace sack De Boer, they hire Hodgson who was unattached
October - Leicester sack Shakespeare, they hire Puel who was unattached
Luke, you can of course believe what you like, but that doesn't make it evidence.
I would say that the vast majority of PL appointments have not involved paying compensation, so it is hardly a common occurrence.
Until there are reliable stories about us seeking to appoint a manager currently engaged, but being put off by the cost of compensation, I'll carry on saying the claim is nonsense, in the same boat as 'When did you stop beating your wife?'
We do need a change, because I have no confidence we will have a good end of year unlike last year when we scraped a few 1-0 wins against bottom 3 sides. We need someone with a new energy and who will get some basic organisation in our side. Because once we get those two things we will win games, because we have decent players, especially up the top end of the pitch. We just need someone to get the best out of them.
(Thanks for doing the research for me.)
Boro went down.
Palace have 4 points.
Puel was harshly sacked after finishing 8th and getting Southampton to a league cup final.
None of these were promised by the owners that we are going to the 'next level'
Moyes had a 28% win percentage at Real Sociedad. Relegated Sunderland with 28 defeats in 43 games.
Keep trying to justify the owners actions all you want. But they are full of 'rubbish' and have told lie after lie
Jan - Swansea hire Guidolin who was unattached (Monk was sacked in December)
Mar - Newcastle sack McLaren, they hire Benitez who was unattached
Mar - Villa sack Garde, they promote first team coach Black
Oct - Swansea sack Guidolin, they hire Bradley from Le Harve (Ligue 2)
Dec - Palace sack Pardew, they hire Allardyce who was unattached
Dec - Swansea sack Bradley, they hire Clement, assistant manager at Bayern Munich
So in the last two years only one Premier League manager has been signed mid season from another club (two if you include Paul Clement) and few can be described as "sexy" (Rafa, maybe Silva and Puel) I think my record shows that I have been critical of the current owners since they took over and started to undermine Zola in the media.
I don't want the bloke, but to go on like he is Billy Blunder who once managed his son's Cubs 4th team is OTT, imo.