;nonono why should we be Harts ticket to getting his confidence back let some other sucker pay big money to baby sit him
On the other hand he'll be busting a gut to make sure he is englands number one when they crash out miserably in the group stages of next year's World Cup finals
from the quote mentioned recently, he wants to go to a club that actually wants him as their goalkeeper. So, if we show him the love, there's a player that can rebuild his confidence and we'll benefit. Who would've envisaged such circumstances a couple of years ago ( as in we'd be in for England no1 GK )? We'd never been in with a shout of him. Dont get me wrong, I like Adrian and hes a decent player. But if Hart gets back to near his best then we'll have a more than decent GK who may want to stay with us because we showed faith in him ;hmm
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Each to there own but it is strange to me that people don't think that Hart is a step up from what we have. And I love Adrian.
Because he is grossly out of form to the point the torino chairman literally said they expected him to be better
He hasn't exactly lit up the EPL for the last couple years and he has been dropped from the England squad
Find it ironic that the many people that say it's only one bad season he had also forgetting fact that up untill this year not a single person cared that we had Adrian in the team.....surely if Hart is allowed a bad season then so is Adrian
Most importantly it's not that he's not an upgrade on Adrian/Randy that people are against this it's the fact that there are far more pressing concerns in the squad and Harts wage alone could potentially affect more important transfers I.e. some reliable and superior strikers
I think people are perfectly able to accept a bad keeper is a bad keeper, whether that's Adrian or Hart.
The reason I am happy with Hart is that I know that, at his best, he's much better than Adrian will ever be.
It wasn't very long ago at all that he was considered one of the best in the world by practically everybody, managers and pundits alike.
He's lost confidence because somebody regularly cited as the best manager in the world, Guardiola, came in and booted him out without a chance. That's got to hurt.
Then he goes to Torino low on confidence, probably trying too hard to prove himself, in a new league with a different style, in an average team facing a lot of pressure in matches, and it's no real shock he didn't do great.
But he is a leader and the worst part of our season last season, worst than anything else, was the shambolic organisation of our back 4/5, and the pathetic way we capitulated after going a goal down time and again.
Having a very accomplished leader and PL winner organising the back four will be a huge bonus.
And, when he gets his confidence back, he will, IMO, return to being considered one of the best in the league.
Who would've envisaged such circumstances a couple of years ago ( as in we'd be in for England no1 GK )?
Didn't we have one of those once before?
Yes, 'calamity' James... Harts still young in GK terms (and normally we'd not be in with a chance of him IMO) and has a few years as a top player if he regains that confidence. Whilst I won't be upset at all if he doesnt come (wages mainly), i'll be happy to see him organizing our defence if he doesarrive.
Are you saying you think he's an upgrade or not? And reports suggest we are to pay half half his wages.
Just because we badly need strikers doesn't mean we shouldn't improve other positions if opportunities come up. If for whatever reason we fail to sign a striker I'd rather we had improved the rest of the team than not.
So it is reported we will pay half of his £100k wage - what an abolsutely cracking deal. Can't me on Dave's, close the deal quickly. On those terms it would be an outstanding deal for a true leader on the field.
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He hasn't exactly lit up the EPL for the last couple years and he has been dropped from the England squad
Find it ironic that the many people that say it's only one bad season he had also forgetting fact that up untill this year not a single person cared that we had Adrian in the team.....surely if Hart is allowed a bad season then so is Adrian
Most importantly it's not that he's not an upgrade on Adrian/Randy that people are against this it's the fact that there are far more pressing concerns in the squad and Harts wage alone could potentially affect more important transfers I.e. some reliable and superior strikers
The reason I am happy with Hart is that I know that, at his best, he's much better than Adrian will ever be.
It wasn't very long ago at all that he was considered one of the best in the world by practically everybody, managers and pundits alike.
He's lost confidence because somebody regularly cited as the best manager in the world, Guardiola, came in and booted him out without a chance. That's got to hurt.
Then he goes to Torino low on confidence, probably trying too hard to prove himself, in a new league with a different style, in an average team facing a lot of pressure in matches, and it's no real shock he didn't do great.
But he is a leader and the worst part of our season last season, worst than anything else, was the shambolic organisation of our back 4/5, and the pathetic way we capitulated after going a goal down time and again.
Having a very accomplished leader and PL winner organising the back four will be a huge bonus.
And, when he gets his confidence back, he will, IMO, return to being considered one of the best in the league.
Are you saying you think he's an upgrade or not? And reports suggest we are to pay half half his wages.
Just because we badly need strikers doesn't mean we shouldn't improve other positions if opportunities come up. If for whatever reason we fail to sign a striker I'd rather we had improved the rest of the team than not.
Hart and Zab are two excellent signings, both in quality and in their leadership abilities.
Great window so far.
Barcelona front man Munir El Haddadi for 8-10 million is being mentioned on media outlets.
We sign Hart on loan. He does really well, but doesn't want to sign for us at the end of the season and goes off to another club.
We lose at least one of Randy and Adrian.
We start next season looking for a new keeper.
Not sure that works out so well for us.