Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

Expat_Hammer

IronHerb said:

Perhaps instead of acquiring a striker who can score 20 goals we've decided to buy a keeper who can stop 20 goals. ;biggrin

So why are after Hart then ;hmm

DJ Hammer

Hart!! He couldn't even stop dandruff let alone goals! ;nonono

Hammerex

Surely it is far more important to get at least two strikers, than a goalkeeper
where we are relatively o.k. in that department. If so the cost of getting Hart
must reduce the amount that we can then afford to spend on two strikers, which is
at the moment our weakest position.

OldCastleSwift

So Ex is back on Twitter.

From what he’s saying, we’re likely to go back to Stoke with an improved offer for Arnautovic including performance clauses (Stoke apparently want £25m). Discussions are ongoing with Hernandez and we’re very interested in Gray. He does mention that we’ve spoken to other forwards as back-ups, but this all suggests to me that Hernandez and Gray are the two ‘proven’ PL strikers we’re after.

So, playing Devil’s Advocate, does £53m for Arnautovic, Hernandez and Gray represent good business in today’s market? ;hmm

OldCastleSwift

Hammerex said:

Surely it is far more important to get at least two strikers, than a goalkeeper
where we are relatively o.k. in that department. If so the cost of getting Hart
must reduce the amount that we can then afford to spend on two strikers, which is
at the moment our weakest position.

I don't think we'll even entertain the notion of buying him, TBH. If Man City won't loan him, it won't happen, full stop.

Yeoldhammer

OldCastleSwift said:

So Ex is back on Twitter.

From what he’s saying, we’re likely to go back to Stoke with an improved offer for Arnautovic including performance clauses (Stoke apparently want £25m). Discussions are ongoing with Hernandez and we’re very interested in Gray. He does mention that we’ve spoken to other forwards as back-ups, but this all suggests to me that Hernandez and Gray are the two ‘proven’ PL strikers we’re after.

So, playing Devil’s Advocate, does £53m for Arnautovic, Hernandez and Gray represent good business in today’s market? ;hmm

When the big clubs are spending 70m a player and Pickford and Keane go for a combined 55m. Yeah those 3 are good business for 53m. But I reckon it might be a tad cheaper than that.

20m / 13m / 15m I reckon = 48m for those 3.

Leaving something in the kitty hopefully for a loan or two or that "special player" ala if 22m for Kovacic is what's being banded about that is what I call a Deal for a Special Player that you should splash extra for.

mike

First of all before putting in another offer for arnautovic i would want to find out the extent of his injury also 25 mill seems over the top.
The other stumbling block could be hernandez wages But if we could get all three for no more than 50 mill i would say that's good business. ;biggrin

Pearces_Left_Foot

Until I see them in a West Ham shirt I won't believe it ;wahoo

OldCastleSwift

Thing is, Arnautovic is contracted until 2022. Stoke don't need to sell. They may very well do to him what we threatended to do to Payet. They can hold out for the £25m and hold all of the cards during the negotiations.

secrethammersfan

OldCastleSwift said:

So, playing Devil’s Advocate, does £53m for Arnautovic, Hernandez and Gray represent good business in today’s market? ;hmm

That's a nicely-framed question, OCS. Using Ayew and Snodgrass as a frame of reference, I would be happy with that.

steve

ocs how come we never seem to have good cards ;weep

IronHerb

OldCastleSwift said:

Thing is, Arnautovic is contracted until 2022. Stoke don't need to sell. They may very well do to him what we threatended to do to Payet. They can hold out for the £25m and hold all of the cards during the negotiations.

But that worked out well for us didn't it. The dressing room was broken and the performances were poor.

Arne has already left in his mind so as long as he passes his medical I believe we'll get him. As long as Bilic wants him of course. ;wink

HappyHammer_ish

Kovacic would be an amazing signing...
Croatian link too.. ;pray ;pray ;pray

PrestonHammer

PrestonHammer said:

A bit left field but how about a bid for Marko Arnautovic? I reckon he would be perfect for left side of a three.

I must have had a premonition on the 19th May... ;lol

TwistandShout

Preston is ...... #braderz ????

;nonono

adecoker

Are there any early guesses for where our last ditch South American loan signing striker that no one's ever heard of is going to come from?

My money's on Paraguay. Not necessarily a Paraguayan but currently plying his trade in Paraguay. I couldn't tell you his name because I've never heard of him.

Vorselaarhammer

I also think Peru, the guys name is Senor Pad Intonbear

OldCastleSwift

billybondsbeard said:

Ex is such a fraud
He has basically repeated Jinxed posts from KUMB from last night
He called the Arnoutovic interest last week and is generally pretty good for an itk imo

Shots fired...

;wink

Vorselaarhammer

MA's agent: "I hope the club does not stand in his way - the offer received is more than correct, compared to what Stoke paid for him."

Vorselaarhammer

Miaow.....

“In the end he wasn’t considered because he has no stamina, no physical impact and isn’t a big game player.”

- Jose Mourinho on Lacazette

Fortuneseeker

So, playing Devil’s Advocate, does £53m for Arnautovic, Hernandez and Gray represent good business in today’s market?

A better use of that type of money would be Hernandez, Braithwaite and Kovacic.

Tell Arsene to do one with regard to Quina!

HappyHammer_ish

Saw this on twitter... Bit difficult to read but couldn't be bothered to re write it...

HappyHammer_ish

Vorselaarhammer said:

Miaow.....

“In the end he wasn’t considered because he has no stamina, no physical impact and isn’t a big game player.”

- Jose Mourinho on Lacazette

So he signed lukaku... who has scored 5 goals in 35 against the top six since 2014... "big game player"



P.S. Go on Sakho! ;scarf

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

It's so depressing to wonder how many goals Sakho and Carroll would have scored over the last few seasons if they'd both been available 95% of the time.

adecoker

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Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

It's so depressing to wonder how many goals Sakho and Carroll would have scored over the last few seasons if they'd both been available 95% of the time.

But they weren't. Just cherish those happy memories of the 5% of the time that they were.

ASLEFshrugged

I suspect that Stoke have deliberately overpriced Aerodynamics in the hope no one thinks he's worth £25m

Bazshuayi

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

It's so depressing to wonder how many goals Sakho and Carroll would have scored over the last few seasons if they'd both been available 95% of the time.

After my 'soccer' studies at MIT I developed an algorithm which incorporated various striker attributes (e.g. physical presence, back to goal, shot accuracy, link up skill, technical ability, mental strengh etc) and eliminated time out injured.

According to my calculations, the answer is.... 39 ;cool

MrsGrey

Happy, that twitter thing... where did it actually originate?

ASLEFshrugged

Bazshuayi said:

According to my calculations, the answer is.... 39 ;cool

Every Frood knows that the answer is 42 (and where their towel is).

Lukerz

If we sign Arnie for £20m ish, where does that leave Ayew?

Team, potentially, would be:

Adrian
Zabaleta - Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell
Obiang - Noble/Kouyate
Antonio - Lanzini - Arnautovic
Hernandez

Do we sell him? Can't spend £40m on two players when one doesn't play.

Amazingly if we could sign Arnie, Hernandez and Gray, that could be it. Only 4 signings with Zab. Not massive overhaul, but 3/4 come into the starting XI. Then we have the luxury of saying 'maybe another top CB if one becomes available and an upgraded keeper (Hart)', but they are bonuses. I do think we need another CM though.

Then depends who we sell and will need replacing in the squad (Snodgrass, Feghouli, Ayew etc).

If the Daves pull it off then full marks.