Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • mikemike
    I would back that fortune IF we could sell our strikers. ;ok
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Think city will have a buy back clause in the contract but I think we shpuld go for it anyways the kid can be a huge asset

    Can't just go forward with him though as he is only a young lad and there will be load software pressure on him
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    software pressure?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He'll be in bits...... ;run
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I'm not going to byte...
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I can see the sense in a "first option" clause but can't see any club agreeing to buy a player where the selling club can say "we are buying him back now".
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    I watched a program on that ....
  • alderzalderz
    edited May 2017
    Thorn

    That's what happened with Morata at Juve. Real just took him back when they were ready
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    And carvahal

    Barcelona but clauses into most of their young players they let go like Romeu and Deulofeu

    United have a clause to get Depay back

    Chelsea looking to get rid of traore with a buy back clause
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    as long as the buyback clause is more than you paid for them it should be okay. if we got Inhenacho for 24m then put the buyback on it at 30m or 40m
  • alderzalderz
    The frustration would be if they took him back for £30m only to sell him on for £50m
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Sky reporting we have put offer in on incheanho
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    This buyback thing has the hallmarks of being worse than a straight loan. All of the downsides of ownership and none of the upsides..

    ;hmm
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    It does guarantee you a decent- sized profit if the original club wants to buy him back. But agreed, mostly its a silly thing to agree to.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Jorderz,

    If he scores, say 15 odd goals for us and we are forced to say give him up for around £28m, in the current market that would be a pretty poor outcome for us (except for the goals bit of course!)
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    But what if he says, I don't want to go back there ???
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Then if he happens to be worth £50m, Man City would trigger their right and we would have to pay the difference to keep him I would have thought.. ;hmm
  • epsom_bubblesepsom_bubbles
    How is that different to third party ownership, Tevez style. We buy the player but don't really own him outright
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    epsom

    I think the definition of 3rd party ownership is that someone other than the club (or in addition to the club) owns the registration right of the player.

    I think buy back clauses are reasonably common on the continent, not that I think it would be a good thing.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Expat_Hammer said:

    But what if he says, I don't want to go back there ???

    I'd imagine that the clause would be in his contract, and if he signs the contract, he can't renege at a later date. Unless HE buys himself out of it.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Not quite the case (as we just found out on the Interwebby).

    There is a 'first refusal' option, or a buy back option that can be inserted into cotnracts.

    This seems to explain it quite well:

    http://www.danielgeey.com/football-transfers-buy-back-clauses-explained/

    Essentially, with the buy back clause, there is typically a minimum term (e.g. 2 years) after whcih for an agreed fee, the selling club have the contractual right to buy the player back. So, essentially, it is a kind of half-way house between a loan and a sale.
  • stevesteve
    ;hmm still don't like it
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited May 2017
    steve

    Me either, but it may be the only way clubs like ours can ever get promising players from 'top clubs'.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Grey

    ;ok

    We are not going to get a player we can get excited about without some sort of drawback/compromise
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    I'm not fussed if there's one in it. City will only want him back if he really stars for us in a Lukaku type of way. If Guardiola doesnt fancy him now I doubt he'll take a great interest in 2 years time plus change his team shape to accommodate.

    Teams like City will be interested in and capable of signing virtually anyone in any given transfer window. Even if Iheanacho scored 15 to 20 goals I reckon it'll be other clubs that'll ultimately be interested (whilst City look for an Aguero replacement elsewhere to go with Jesus).

    In short, he's got potential to be a great player but City are always in the market for the very top players (assume Bernard Silva will ultimately take David Silvas role in the side for example and in the short term be his substitute or replace if injured).

    Iheanacho isnt getting in the team in front of Sane, Aguero, Jesus, DeBruyne, Sterling and Silva(s) (plus anyone else they buy). It would make sense for him to move and he, at this moment, will only get week in/week out time at a lesser club like us.

    I'm more concerned he'll go to Everton or a continental club rather than worry about a buy back clause
  • LukerzLukerz
    He will only go to EFC if there's movement on Lukaku. Which is why moving early is important.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited May 2017
    Of course, he could decide to sit it out to the last knockings of the transfer window, no matter how early we go... Batshuayi all over again?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Make the offer, if accepted throw terms at him or ask what he wants.
    Agree or disagree then move on.
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    Can we get Dimi back for a couple of games? Just so I can give him a Chinese burn and stamp on his toes.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    edited May 2017
    There's always the other side of the coin, too, that you can end up having to sell a player for less than their true value because he forces a move (ala Payet). At least with the buyback clause, there is a fixed return which would represent a profit and hopefully a good price based on his current potential.
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