I don't think anyone is saying that a 5 goal return would be enough. But a 15/20 goal a season striker is extremely unlikely for us. If we could get a striker that "guarantees" 12+ goals a season, we would have done well
He also said back then re: transfers that he was happy with what he had. Wonder if several games later, especially after inevitably AC got crocked, he was still of that thinking.
Plus, re hart, he was probably not going to say he rated hart and would pursuing him in the summer - he probably knows better than to say something which might demotivate his existing players
Thinking back didn't the Davids want to sign Shane Long back in the summer of 2010, saying they'd sign one (or all) of the top three strikers in the Championship (the others being Danny Graham and Grant Holt)?
Except Long signed to WBA, Graham signed to Swansea and Holt stayed at Norwich
I know you can never say never re: transfers but Bilic said this back in February:
"We are heavily linked with every player looking for a move. I rate Joe Hart really highly as a great goalkeeper and personality," Bilic said.
"On the other hand, if there is one position that I am not even thinking of changing it is goalkeeper because I have two great ones."
To be fair though he isn't going to say 'we need a new keeper' halfway into the season and dent the current goalkeepers confidence. Also wasn't this before Randolph had about 4 shockers in a row?
Hope WHU do the transfer business early so that we are still not searching for players when the pre-season begins. What WHU need would depend on diagnosis of squad, need to freshen it, improve it and retain the right balance and depth. No mean task for any team other than the moneybags like Chelsea, MANCS and MANU. Here are my thoughts on rejuvenation of the squad.
Players on the way out should be Tore (not done much), Calleri (a touch of the Zazas), Arbeloa (a mistake), Norveidt (not really made the EPL grade), Carroll (always injured, lacks movement and very predictable) and Sakho (sulks even if he recovers), Randoplh (too many errors).
The current CBs are ageing (Collins, Fonte) and their lack of speed would be exploited by EPL teams. So that are needs to be addressed even if Reid and Ogbonna are still here next season.
How many new players WHU will depend on how many second string players can step-up. I don't think Oxford and Burke has developed last season and both played relatively few games. Cullen seems a bright prospect. But who would step up - Martinez, Rice, Quinoa??
The biggest need is for one or two good strikers and the quality would depend on how much the two Daves are willing to spend.
the quality would depend on how much the two Daves are willing to spend.
If that were all there was to it, it would be easy.
We had a firm bid for Bacca accepted, and he turned us down. Batsman preferred Chelski.
The number of proven good strikers is a very limited pool, and we are not really in the front line when it comes to attracting them, no matter how much we are prepared to spend.
Sky reporting that Defoe has agreed to join Bournemouth and for £65k a week!! Think for that value (not sure i trust sky ) it's a huge mistake not going for him
With Champo on this one. Think Defoe was a no-brainer from a footballing point of view. We've been crying out for a goal-scorer for years and he was there for the taking.
He would as good as guarantee 10+ goals a season which in itself could be worth another 8-10 points per season.
I'll be interested to see how this pans out, because I'm not convinced we can attract better; particularly someone who is a proven PL goalscorer
Hes 35 soon. October I think. He's pretty fit but a 3 year contract for a striker his age is like paying him for at least one season where he probably won't be playing ;hmm
Defoe will be a good signing for Bournemouth it will keep them mid table in my opinion with some further additions. Problem is if they bust their wage structure over Defoe i can see alot of Cherries players wanting a better deal. Could hurt them long term.
Those figures do seem high but I guess if there is no fee to Sunderland then maybe less than going into the market and paying a strikers fee. He's at the age where you would expect a 50k per week with some form of appearance or goal bonus should be enough but in this day and age I would not be surprised at some of those figures as to go and buy a premiership proven striker is 20m and 80k plus per week if you can even get one.
Fair enough the salary is 'paper talk', but then that is true for any player's salary, so we are no better when we discuss what we think our players are earning.
Another striker to add to the gossip list that we have no chance of signing
Fixed it for you ;ok
As with Bats and Iheanacho, even if Martial was allowed to go, I can see better teams with more to offer than us being interested, so another one we have no chance with, IMO.
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I don't think anyone is saying that a 5 goal return would be enough. But a 15/20 goal a season striker is extremely unlikely for us. If we could get a striker that "guarantees" 12+ goals a season, we would have done well
He also said back then re: transfers that he was happy with what he had. Wonder if several games later, especially after inevitably AC got crocked, he was still of that thinking.
Plus, re hart, he was probably not going to say he rated hart and would pursuing him in the summer - he probably knows better than to say something which might demotivate his existing players
The Daily Mirror link us with Ichenacho, Sturridge, Sigurdsson and Shane Long.
Come on, admit it, you know out of that list we're going to end up with Shane Long
Except Long signed to WBA, Graham signed to Swansea and Holt stayed at Norwich
Players on the way out should be Tore (not done much), Calleri (a touch of the Zazas), Arbeloa (a mistake), Norveidt (not really made the EPL grade), Carroll (always injured, lacks movement and very predictable) and Sakho (sulks even if he recovers), Randoplh (too many errors).
The current CBs are ageing (Collins, Fonte) and their lack of speed would be exploited by EPL teams. So that are needs to be addressed even if Reid and Ogbonna are still here next season.
How many new players WHU will depend on how many second string players can step-up. I don't think Oxford and Burke has developed last season and both played relatively few games. Cullen seems a bright prospect. But who would step up - Martinez, Rice, Quinoa??
The biggest need is for one or two good strikers and the quality would depend on how much the two Daves are willing to spend.
We had a firm bid for Bacca accepted, and he turned us down. Batsman preferred Chelski.
The number of proven good strikers is a very limited pool, and we are not really in the front line when it comes to attracting them, no matter how much we are prepared to spend.
Think for that value (not sure i trust sky ) it's a huge mistake not going for him
He would as good as guarantee 10+ goals a season which in itself could be worth another 8-10 points per season.
I'll be interested to see how this pans out, because I'm not convinced we can attract better; particularly someone who is a proven PL goalscorer
Paper talk.
Another striker to add to the gossip list
Fair enough the salary is 'paper talk', but then that is true for any player's salary, so we are no better when we discuss what we think our players are earning.
As with Bats and Iheanacho, even if Martial was allowed to go, I can see better teams with more to offer than us being interested, so another one we have no chance with, IMO.