Problem Slav had is that there's every chance we won't pick up another point this season. I think we have just about enough as it is but I can't see us picking up another win.
This season has been every bit as horrible as last season was great, so I think he deserves another year to right the wrongs.
I wouldn't be surprised to se Benitez given the job, it appears he was near to doing so before Real Madrid came in for him and although he will have taken Newcastle back to the Premiership he may not enjoy working for the Newcastle board and may be open to coming.
Personally I think Slav has done little wrong with the team he has been able to field on most occasions. You could argue he bought the rubbish we acquired in the summer and that would be fair enough, but with the team he had after each window he has done about the best anyone could I feel.
Aside from that I just love a coach who cares, has a bit of passion.
Can someone explain to me why Simone Inghazi would leave Lazio after one season, they're currently fourth in Serie A, reached the final of the Copa Italia, guaranteed Europa League next season and he's supposedly been offered an improved contract? Its not as if we're a step up!
I don't see Rafa wanting to come to us either, we're not a better prospect than Newcastle and he'll want a season in the Premier League with the team he's been putting together.
I don't see S&G sacking Bilic simply because I don't think they want to go back into the manager market and suffer all that rejection again so soon after last time.
I want Slav to stay for the next few years, personally. lLast season was brilliant. This year has been painful but he's had to deal with so many problems.
With all these digs in the press and on the official website from DS it looks like he wants to change
Also Inzaghi is Lazio to the core, over ten years as a player and he's been on the coaching staff since he hung up his boots. He's like a Romano John Lyall
My take on it is that if the daves decided to make a change (still not sure that they will) it will be not necessarily be because of managerial abilities, but also down to the manager's ability to attract top players to the club.
They had 30m bids accepted for bacca and bats but neither wanted to come - I should imagine the daves are a little peeved at then being accused of not spending when the players themselves didn't want to come.
Rafa managed to get decent enough players to stay and play in the champ. Nolan dropped a division to join us and Sam in the champ.
Maybe that's why Southampton ditched Adkins for poch a few years ago.
I would think, for example, that if someone like Mancini were at the helm, it would greatly enhance the chances of getting the likes of joe hart.
I think they will keep him. He's got a year on his contract, I'd be very surprised if they wanted to pay that up. I think keeping him is the easy decision, because they can point to a great season last year, and a 'transition' season this year.
I can't see any manager that is a step up on Slav wanting to come here right now, and I think the owners know that.
It isn't just players S&G fail to attract, its managers too. When we replaced Sam we were linked with Emery, Bielsa, Klopp, Anchelotti and others, we ended up with Bilic because they weren't interested. If he had Mancini or one of those then we might well attract better players but they aren't interested in us so Bilic is the best we're going to get at the moment.
I don't think its so much a manager that will be the ultimate factor for someone joining a club. As long as you have the money to throw at them and are playing in Europe I really doubt they care who the manager is as long as they have not had a personal run in with them previously.
I don't disagree but it's all about timing. With different timing and circumstances we'd have got Rafa. Rafa was at a loose end so Newcastle got him when they ditched mclaren
It may depend on who is kicking around come the end of the season
We were (briefly) in Europe and the daves would have put decent offers to the likes of bats and bacca. Plus we had arguably one of the top providers of assists in the whole of Europe. Still neither wanted to come.
One of the biggest problems is we don't give any young home grown players some sort of a run in the side. Even when we are shockingly poor for a reasonable period of time. Even when we get hit with injuries. The answer seems to be to take other first team players and play them out of position. It's incredibly depressing to see. And it forces the daves to try and cover every position with external purchases when they themselves don't have limitless funds.
We padded out a squad with Europa League players, who we ended up not needing. The fact we spent nothing on them just shows the fact we weren't expecting to be long term residents in the competition going forwards.
Then we lost key first team players to injury and those Europa League players were thrown straight in at the deep end, and were shown to be either not good enough, not ready or a bit of both.
Funnily enough, I could see the likes of Tore, Nordtveit, Feghouli and Zaza contributing to a European adventure. The pace is slower, they're experienced in European football and it may have seen a different path for them all.
Add to that the house move, the training ground move and the Dimitri Payet saga, Slav has had a lot to deal with.
Mistakes have been made all round.
But it'll be an experience for the entire club to benefit from and I just hope that they retain Slav to show next season that he's a quick learner.
It really doesn't help that last season was a total freak of a season. Not just for us for the whole league.
Therefore the expectations and the whole "last season they had this many more points/wins etc" make it seem a whole lot worse than it is and it is pretty bad anyway!
We need to stick with 1 manager, he needs to be continually funded to build the squad that he wants and we need to make small but continual improvements.
IMO there is no massively logical argument in "sticking with a manager for a few years" at a club like ours if that manager does not have a clear proven strategy for developing and bringing younger home grown players into the first team and giving them chances
Also depends what team he is trying to mould. If Tore (someone he had being chasing since he joined) / Zaza / Feghouli / Calleri e.t.c were sanctioned purchases by Slaven then you have to question what team exactly he is trying to build that most of his summer signings have flopped and don't look like they will be here by the end of this Summer.
So how many managers have a 'clear proven strategy for developing and bringing younger home grown players into the first team and giving them chances'? I cant think of many. Ferguson was the last I think. ;hmm
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I think that is a certainty.
This season has been every bit as horrible as last season was great, so I think he deserves another year to right the wrongs.
Personally I think Slav has done little wrong with the team he has been able to field on most occasions. You could argue he bought the rubbish we acquired in the summer and that would be fair enough, but with the team he had after each window he has done about the best anyone could I feel.
Aside from that I just love a coach who cares, has a bit of passion.
But I think the owners feel differently.
I don't see Rafa wanting to come to us either, we're not a better prospect than Newcastle and he'll want a season in the Premier League with the team he's been putting together.
I don't see S&G sacking Bilic simply because I don't think they want to go back into the manager market and suffer all that rejection again so soon after last time.
With all these digs in the press and on the official website from DS it looks like he wants to change
They had 30m bids accepted for bacca and bats but neither wanted to come - I should imagine the daves are a little peeved at then being accused of not spending when the players themselves didn't want to come.
Rafa managed to get decent enough players to stay and play in the champ. Nolan dropped a division to join us and Sam in the champ.
Maybe that's why Southampton ditched Adkins for poch a few years ago.
I would think, for example, that if someone like Mancini were at the helm, it would greatly enhance the chances of getting the likes of joe hart.
I can't see any manager that is a step up on Slav wanting to come here right now, and I think the owners know that.
It isn't just players S&G fail to attract, its managers too. When we replaced Sam we were linked with Emery, Bielsa, Klopp, Anchelotti and others, we ended up with Bilic because they weren't interested. If he had Mancini or one of those then we might well attract better players but they aren't interested in us so Bilic is the best we're going to get at the moment.
I don't disagree but it's all about timing. With different timing and circumstances we'd have got Rafa. Rafa was at a loose end so Newcastle got him when they ditched mclaren
It may depend on who is kicking around come the end of the season
We were (briefly) in Europe and the daves would have put decent offers to the likes of bats and bacca. Plus we had arguably one of the top providers of assists in the whole of Europe. Still neither wanted to come.
Difficult season, he's made plenty of mistakes and our summer transfer activity was poor.
With a few tweaks here and there we can get back on track next season.
Just my opinion
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Then we lost key first team players to injury and those Europa League players were thrown straight in at the deep end, and were shown to be either not good enough, not ready or a bit of both.
Funnily enough, I could see the likes of Tore, Nordtveit, Feghouli and Zaza contributing to a European adventure. The pace is slower, they're experienced in European football and it may have seen a different path for them all.
Add to that the house move, the training ground move and the Dimitri Payet saga, Slav has had a lot to deal with.
Mistakes have been made all round.
But it'll be an experience for the entire club to benefit from and I just hope that they retain Slav to show next season that he's a quick learner.
Therefore the expectations and the whole "last season they had this many more points/wins etc" make it seem a whole lot worse than it is and it is pretty bad anyway!
We need to stick with 1 manager, he needs to be continually funded to build the squad that he wants and we need to make small but continual improvements.