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Surely, aside from the odious nature of the order, and it's frankly dubious necessity, everyone should be concerned by the amateurish way this was rushed out?
Why didn't he have advisers around him capable of telling him the inevitable consequences of such an ill-thought out and ill-prepared order?
Why have an adviser who dismisses the sufferings of many thousands as not significant?
You have a president who is clearly prepared to act first, and then not even really think much later.
That should, imo, be of grave concern not just to US citizens, but to people everywhere.
1. The 'immediate effect' aspect is really not the one that's causing the most consternation, Donald. ;doh
2. Even if it were that easy to get a visa within a week (which it often isn't), who said it had to be a week's notice?
3. And even if that rationale is valid, why where you not capable of anticipating the problems that would occur, and have put in place some plan or guidance to minimise the effects?
But we should put on our happy faces, because Trump says, “I think it’s going to be very successful.That’s big stuff.”
Apparently not!
https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.qbbsr4ywq
This also goes into more detail about the legal side.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas
I strongly resent the moral high ground that the left appears to want to occupy, those in glass houses.... Let those without sin...
If a person wants to stand behind that sort of policy and defend it by suggesting that someone else would have been worse, then frankly I don't care if they like the insinuation or not.
Basically he's going to meet Phil the Greek and I would love to see that.
The Left can take the moral highground because by supporting Trump the Right has totally abandoned it.
At her confirmation hearings, Sessions (who is Trump's pick for AG who hasn't been confirmed yet) questioned her. He said, “You have to watch out, because people will be asking you to do things you just need to say no about. Do you think the attorney general has a responsibility to say no to the president, if he asks for something that is improper? … If the views the president wants to execute are unlawful, should the attorney general or the deputy attorney general say no?”
Her answer?
"I believe the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and to give their independent legal advice to the president.”
OL: Thanks for digging up useful articles, I'm rubbish with the internet ;bowdown
Mrs Grey, I really dont think the ISIS initiaitive is good news at all. Nothing he's done or suggested will do anything else than increase ISIS numbers of volunteers. It's like saying that Hitler offered good news in helping to get rid of Jewish terrorist groups. The solution could easily be a nuclear bomb on somewhere like Tehran. Would that be good news? Past US presidents and illiterate US Foreign Policy advisers provided the basis for violent anti-US groups in the Mid East, George Bush created the antecedants of ISIS, Obama unfortunately helped recruitment by failing to eliminate Guantanamo Bay, overturning the rule of law when it came to terrorists (and yes I include the illegal assassination of Osam abin Laden in that) and not getting out of Middle Eastern wars. We (developed world leaders),have been bringing all this on our heads for decades and at least since the administration of Reagan, who started off all the illegality, assassinations, incoherence and incompetence (Contras, North etc) - but not in the first place of course. There is I hope a special place in hell reserved for a few recent US Presidents. Trump will not be alone when he goes there eventually
"America is just the country that shows how all the written guarantees in the World for freedom are no protection against tyranny and oppression of the worst kind. There the politician has come to be looked upon as the very scum of society."
;bowdown
Putin and Trump are two of the most powerful people on the planet. And both are as mad as a box of frogs. Thank God for democracy.
Call me deplorable if you will but everyone seems to be getting their knickers in a twist over a 90 day suspension, this is not a ban, this is a halt on immigration from known terrorist areas until the state dept can get their act together. Do i agree no, as we all know there are bad apples in every barrel so blocking these countries does little or nothing to stop radicals but it does tick off another campaign promise. Call him what you will but he is following through on his promises.
As for better than the other candidate (replying to Aslef) - read between the lines, i was adopted & have adopted 2 other children, i may be a bad man to some but i believe in life unlike the other candidate.
As for your substantive comment - you say you don't agree, but then say Well done, he's ticked off a campaign promise so that's a good thing.
Do you not care if it is a promise to do something vile? Racist? Misogynistic?
How about if he got elected on a promise to exterminate Jews? Would you be an apologist for that?
You know.
Just on the off-chance?
a) to avoid making discussions personal
b) use of exclamations such as jeez, Jesus Christ etc are offensive to some users and should therefore be avoided
Ta vm
To suggest that those who support Roe v Wade do not believe in life is the worst kind of rhetorical nonsense.
To imagine that it is OK to foist a personal moral opinion on an entire nation is sheer arrogance.
If the anti-abortion position is so self-evidently obvious, then it is up to its supporters to make that case, rather than simply denigrate those who disagree.