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It is even affecting people whose final destination isn't the US, but are transiting through US airports . So the Guardian is reporting on a UK resident, with an Iranian passport, who is trying to get home from a holiday in Costa Rica. Because she was supposed to change planes in NY, she was prevented from getting on her flight out of Costa Rica.
So not only is it an odious policy, it hasn't even been thought through.
;doh
;quaver You don't know what you're doing.
It cannot have been the intent to target green card holders who have by definition applied for residency here in the US by totally legal means and have obeyed all the appropriate rules of law.
Surely the inevitable backlash will result in a change in policy
Hopefully it is simply a case of unintended overreach and common sense will apply.
Death by ignorance is no way to go however.
The people who are affected are unlikely to be his supporters. His ardent fans on the other hand will mostly see this as him living up to his promises, and being thwarted (now that there are legal challenges, and a couple of judges ruling temporarily against extraditions* ) by unelected judges. (Sound familiar?) And, many of his supporters are overtly racist, so they'll enjoy the 'cleansing' nature of this order.
* folks with Green Cards, who were in the air when he order was signed, detained on arrival - that's arrival home, placed in detention, and readied to be put back on a plane going to their country of their nationality. (Even if that's not where they flew to the US from. And even if the American vetting processes have already established, prior to granting them residency, that their lives are not safe there. In one case, the person wouldn't be safe if sent back to Iraq because he had actually been helping US forces in Iraq. ;doh
If anyone is interested, and hasn't seen it, there's a petition online calling on the govt to downgrade Trump's visit so it isn't a full state visit.
But that suggests the order is so vaguely drafted, and the officials are just going to announce what it means.
It meant one thing yesterday.
A different thing today.
I wonder what it will mean tomorrow?
Whatever they want it to, presumably.
;doh
This is an ideological measure, pandering to ignorance and prejudice.
Furthermore, how many of those 'whats happening in Europe's are caused by actual citizens of European countries, and how many by citizens of the banned states? It would be interesting to see - he might be better off banning French people.
Edit: of course, 2 of the 7 home grown Islamic jihadists would have been the Boston Marathon bombers - American citizens. With Russian(ish) roots. Entirely self-radicalized.
Ask yourself - do actions like Trump's make it more likely or less likely that others will follow in their footsteps? (as per outcast's comment earlier)
I suppose that if they do get blown to kingdom come, he can console himself that it will be by American terrorists, rather than foreign ones.
#AmericaFirst
I knicked of a mates Facebook post, I'll see if she knows.
;hmm
And not likely to change my outlook any time soon, based on recent events. ;ok
His strategy is to keep his power base by division through the blue coasts vs the red middle and nullifying reporting by lumping in the media with the blue coasts. It's as if a persons own quest for power can override anything.
The other thing I cannot understand is why even if he wants go down this populist appealing route that he didn't simply inform that no new visas would be issued in certain countries from now on but that all already issued visas would be honoured, it's as if he actually wanted to make as much of a splash as possible in his first week. I think just as we will find in Europe should he continue other nations will begin to look away from them whilst he is there, he and ourselves may feel we are needed more than we actually are.