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While the way he and/or his agent have gone about it is wrong, have you ever been in this situation, just curious?
Because I have and I can tell you it was nothing to do with money and certainly not 125k a week either!!
Getting home from work everyday for the first two years after moving abroad wondering if the wife's bags were packed at the door.
Believe me it's not a nice situation
London - perhaps it's not about it being a rubbish city perhaps it's about wanting to be nearer to home?
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Will we ever?
Maybe DP had pleaded with the club to let him go this window and they still weren’t having it so felt this was his only option.
Family > Football
Re tapping up – I think it’s impossible to police.
Marseille could have easily gone through an existing player who is a mate of DP’s and gone from there.
No way of controlling imo so that’s why it probably isn’t as frowned upon as before.
I am Honestly curious?
How many?
I do agree with the last bit
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Maybe they had an agreement to let him go this summer but it's basically all been brought forward due to his personal situation? Perhaps the family bit accelerated his need to get away and go home
If OM have tapped him up then there have no doubt been other offers from other clubs since the Euro's sounding out his agent, I would say that is almost inevitable just because the club didn't get any offers doesn't mean it hasn't gone on.
The Dave's won't be relishing all this, they don't hold all the power because the bottom line is that sully will be wanting that money in the bank to reuse and he won't want 80k a week in the stiffs for too long. This isn't like an injury that is part and parcel of the game.
The player always holds a certain amount of cards.
It has however detracted from
All the flack the board were getting and he will love that.
If his wife is threatening to leave him if he doesn't follow, then perhaps he needs to ask himself if she is the right person to share your life with....isn't life all about compromise...
His kids are homesick , well yeah, I mean his kids are the 1st kids to be told that they are leaving a country and moving to another, they are not teenagers going thru exams or having boyfriends or girlfriends they cannot be away from , they are little kids who I'm guessing have every luxury around...to take away the pain of missing Marseilles
Slav, I get your stance but I don't agree..
I have never been in that position , thankfully, but my brother has...for the past 2 years he has worked in Newport while his wife and kids remain in Cambridge, is he happy with that, no, I'm sure not, but he has done what has had to be done....
If Dimi comes out and says he's/ or his agent had handled it wrong & shows his heart by telling the truth about it all, then I will forgive him, but as yet all he has done is act like a spoilt brat IMO
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I haven't really seen (on here or in the media I have read) that money is being put forward as his motivation? Apart from the China rumours, which I don't put much store in.
It seems to me that the criticism has mostly focused on his actions, not his motives?
The F word is all too often used as a 'end of' strategy. As if once someone plays the 'family' card, all argument is over and everybody has to back off.
That shouldn't be the case, imo.
'Family' is not by definition more important than everything else, and doing something 'for your family' doesn't justify everything else. It's a choice. He is free to make it, but it shouldn't automatically exempt him from criticism.
It is one factor. Another factor, and no less important is (for example) setting an example to your kids that when you've given your word, you stick by it. Or (another example) sometimes sacrifices have to be made in the short term to achieve a better future down the line.
I also don't think framing the choice as 'family or football' is an accurate reflection of the situation. He isn't (assuming all the family stuff is at the bottom of this) choosing between his family and playing football.
It's not about agreeing, it's about acknowledging everyone is different and it affects some people more or less than others
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It could be relatively simple
He wants a better home life, playing for a club that he has enjoyed playing at before and all the while still collecting a decent wedge
#worklifebalance
Family you would have thought would trump job for most people.
However he appears to have an option of handing in a transfer request and allowing the daves to thrash out a suitable fee with Marseille
He can then still join Marseille on a salary that most in the world can only dream of. Financially the daves I'm sure would have originally rolled the red carpet out to both him and his family. Everything they seem to have done has largely afforded him God like status at the club. Still not enough? That's fine, no problem however there still needs to be financial consequences for him as he was the one who signed his extension not long ago.
He cannot expect his enhanced West Ham contract to be paid up fully due to changes in his personal circumstances - I'm sorry but life doesn't work like that.
But as you say, it is a factor, I'm sure one of MANY, there could've been promises from the board, the manager, the player, all broken one after the other, who knows?
It sounds like Bilic has tried his hardest to help the player and whether that hasn't worked or Payet's situation (family) was perhaps bigger than what the club thought, the manager has done his job and did it again when explaining why he was not up for selection against Palace.
Lets just hope there isn't too much more to this story other than the Payet piece and there wasn't another kind of message being sent by Bilic.
It's only the way he has handled it ..
By doing what he has , he has now alienated himself from everyone connected to the club IMO ..
I have no issue if he's homesick or his family are, as u said , it's all about the way he has gone about it & nothing else for me...
Bilic doesn't come across as someone who would take such an aggressive position (the press conference) if there was a genuine grievance. If he has, it would make me question him.
If family was the problem, then I think Payet saying he wouldn't play one week might not necessarily apply to the week after. It would've been an emotional decision that might've been fixed. It seems Bilic felt that Payet wasn't thinking along those lines.
When Bilic announced it, didn't he basically say that Dimi had told him a few days ago that he wouldn't play for West Ham again. Then after being given a few days to reflect, he told Slav on the phone that he was sticking by his decision?
I know, I'm bang out of order ;lol
Go back to when he won Hammer Of The Year last year & look at the acceptance speech.It was all done via an interpreter despite him playing an entire season here.I know from personal experience that learning another language isn't easy but to not be able to say a simple 'thank you very much' at the end of an entire season in English strikes me that he never intended to stay very long in the first place.
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I can think of worse things to be ;ok
ASLEF was calling me out the other day saying we have no facts apart from what Bilic said, so it was more a tongue-in-cheek nudge to that than anything else, nothing vindictive.
I think if somebody is making a point in a forum, where we discuss things, based on information, it's quite helpful for other posters to know where it's come from, so we can then debate it seriously or put it down as a guess/conspiracy theory.
Fair enough Jorderz, fair enough.........
(how much they paying you?)
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