Jorderz - he is supposed to have agreed terms with Marsielle before they even made an offer. The lad wants to go home (or more accurately Mrs Payet doesn't like Loughton. And who can blame her)
If Ms Brady is half as astute as she thinks she is on the apprentice she will be recognising that she holds all the cards, Marsaille have a new super rich owner, they have agreed terms with Dimi it appears, we have him on a long contract and he will not relish a choice between staying in London and training or having treatment for his 'injury' whilst his family is in France. So all she or of course Sullivan need do is state their price of 30m or 35m and say that is it not a penny less.
Marsaille and Dimi have no power and so to take 25m after paying 20m for Ayew would expose any rumours of our owners being a shrewd businessmen.. Likely an undisclosed fee job however.
C&Bsky - Sullivan gave Brady a job when she was 21 because her Dad was one of his biggest suppliers in his printing of porn mags. She has spent her entire career looking after DS's money.
Sullivan, Gold and Brady spent 15 years at Birmingham City and thought that Avram Grant was the manager to take us to a higher level.
They are clueless muppets. Anyone on this site has more of an idea of a good footballing decision than they do, we just don't have the money made out of porn and sex toys that they do.
Dimi is sadly rotten to the core... He has at the moment the attitude of a child brat.. I Couldn't care a less about his family or kids , man up.... He IMO is a disgrace to our football club.. Sell ASAP and let him leave London, I mean it's such a rubbish city ;doh
Jorderz - he is supposed to have agreed terms with Marsielle before they even made an offer. The lad wants to go home (or more accurately Mrs Payet doesn't like Loughton. And who can blame her)
The other day you were saying not to believe anything except what Bilic has said, and barely even that! ;lol
We all have to go to work with family issues, some times terrible things.
My wife has spent months of our relationship in Asia. I don't refuse to go into work ;ok
Think the family thing is a very, very easy backtrack after an unexpectedly vitriolic backlash, and also an awareness that perhaps Marseille aren't going to pay the kind of money WHU will sell for, meaning he might have to stay after all.
Unfortunately Dimi holds the cards, because the club NEED to sell him by Feb or only the club suffers. He comes in, does the absolute minimum in U23 training, picks up his wage, yet we have no chance of benefitting because he won't play. His price drops in the summer.
Marseilles are the only interested party and, even if they weren't, he only wants Marseilles, so there is no bidding war to drive up the price. So it's whatever Marseilles want to pay. Keeping him and saying 'tough' benefits nobody.
This is easily resolved by him handing in a transfer request.
The club, should it wish can hang on to him till he is 34 years old and the only way he can escape playing is by effectively deliberately injuring his own body. On top of this, in terms of playing for France, he'd be finished. He'd have to ask himself if this is a path he would like to pursue.
I got my most ever likes on a tweet last night, because I called out a journalist for sharing this and when he was called out for it being inaccurate, he said he knew. So why is he sharing the lie and not the truth? The fact that so many outlets are sharing this and not telling the full story is misleading tens of thousands of people to believe that Bilic is a hypocrite. He isn't. I can't get it right now, but there's an extract from the Everton website saying (paraphrasing) "he felt he owed west ham a duty so stayed til the end of the season to ensure they avoided relegation". The complete opposite of Dimi. I hate the media in this country.
Baracks - but the club won't say 'sit in the reserves on £80,000+ a week for five years". There is 0% chance of that happening.
So that isn't an option.
If the Daves are happy to sit tight they can do as they please. His contract may well state that he needs to live within x miles of the club. If so he is stuffed, if indeed family is the main driver.
It depends on whether the Dave's, like Jeremy Peace, want to exercise their rights.
Yea I dont see why not, as everyone's mentioned he's going from earning £125k to £80k per week as he's not getting the match bonuses in his contract
The club clearly have a wage budget which is fairly sustainable for a club our size so we are still saving £55k per week then we usually were, plus we've already offloaded Zaza wages
The board must feel frustrated in the summer with our bids constantly being rejected as teams wouldn't budge on value, so don't think they'll let dimi walk on the cheap
If he trains with the reserves he will probably end up not turning up so we can fine him his wages so the loss isn't so bad
If OM want him they'll have to pay for him, it's their fault he wants out anyway as he's definately been tapped up
Eski - bloke on talkSPORT (Matt something) was banging the same drum yesterday. Jim White and Deano were calling him out, as were all the callers. His argument was football has changed so back then, what Bilic did is the equivalent of what Dimi is doing today. ;doh
Unfortunately Dimi holds the cards, because the club NEED to sell him by Feb or only the club suffers. He comes in, does the absolute minimum in U23 training, picks up his wage, yet we have no chance of benefitting because he won't play. His price drops in the summer.
Marseilles are the only interested party and, even if they weren't, he only wants Marseilles, so there is no bidding war to drive up the price. So it's whatever Marseilles want to pay. Keeping him and saying 'tough' benefits nobody.
Don't agree, Real Madrid's embargo ends this window if I am right ? there will be more clubs in the summer with better financial clout who will come in for him. I don't think the club lose out. His price will not drop over 6 months considering what he did last season and at the Euros. If anything I would say its the opposite the club hold the cards and its down to Marseilles to pay the 30m+ to get him now or risk not getting him at all.
So, hypothetically... Chinese club comes in and bids something stupid, like they seem prone to do, lets say £45m. Payet turns them down officially (not this tapped up rubbish). Now what's the clubs stance to Marseille? We wanted £30m (probably) but he's just cost us £15m more. What would you do?
They bought Birmingham for a £1 and sold it for millions . They have made plenty of mistakes but no more than most owners I think clueless muppets is a tad harsh. We were months away for administration when they bought us and we are now a mid table club with a lot less debt. Not perfect by any means but not stupid or clueless would rather be owned by them than some faceless American/Chinese/Arab owner.
I know I am rehashing what others have said but this whole situation is infuriating me. I feel for the lad if there genuinely is family issues, be it him or the wife at fault, family is always more important than football. If the solution to his marital issues is to live in France then fair enough, he wants to move there. It's a real pain for us, as potential destinations are limited, plus of course we are losing a player of real quality.
However, this downing tools attitude to force through a transfer is really a disgrace. Why cannot he keep playing and trying his best until the proposed transfer materialises. He is under a contract he was happy to sign mere months ago, that is what he should be doing.
I hate this (seemingly to me) new attitude by some footballers to, when they want to leave, not hand in an official transfer request but just state "i want to leave, I shan't play for you anymore". As far as I am aware by transferring without having handed an official request he (and his agent [get them out the game]) get bonus cash they would not if they handed a TR that should instead come to our club.
I also am disappointed with his efforts even when he has played this season. He (IMO) clearly has not worked as hard on the pitch as last season which was already irritating me before this whole 'transfer' saga started. And of course I'm sad to be losing a player I (used to) love watching.
Comments
He hasn't turned anybody down until the club agree a deal and somebody offers him a contract.
Spin on both sides no doubt
Marsaille and Dimi have no power and so to take 25m after paying 20m for Ayew would expose any rumours of our owners being a shrewd businessmen.. Likely an undisclosed fee job however.
Sullivan, Gold and Brady spent 15 years at Birmingham City and thought that Avram Grant was the manager to take us to a higher level.
They are clueless muppets. Anyone on this site has more of an idea of a good footballing decision than they do, we just don't have the money made out of porn and sex toys that they do.
De Nile is a river in Africa.
He has at the moment the attitude of a child brat..
I Couldn't care a less about his family or kids , man up....
He IMO is a disgrace to our football club..
Sell ASAP and let him leave London, I mean it's such a rubbish city ;doh
How do you now know all of this?
We all have to go to work with family issues, some times terrible things.
My wife has spent months of our relationship in Asia. I don't refuse to go into work ;ok
Think the family thing is a very, very easy backtrack after an unexpectedly vitriolic backlash, and also an awareness that perhaps Marseille aren't going to pay the kind of money WHU will sell for, meaning he might have to stay after all.
From twitter
Whilst slightly ironic it's clearly somewhat different to what we have now.
From memory Bilic did not down tools and refuse to play and gave his all up to the point when the club acceded to his wishes
There'll be players up and down the country who want to move to supposedly bigger clubs, there's nothing new in that
Marseilles are the only interested party and, even if they weren't, he only wants Marseilles, so there is no bidding war to drive up the price. So it's whatever Marseilles want to pay. Keeping him and saying 'tough' benefits nobody.
I agree with your comments. ;ok
It was just an attempt at a bit of humour. Maybe poorly executed.
The club, should it wish can hang on to him till he is 34 years old and the only way he can escape playing is by effectively deliberately injuring his own body. On top of this, in terms of playing for France, he'd be finished. He'd have to ask himself if this is a path he would like to pursue.
So that isn't an option.
We have budgeted his salary so that's covered. He won't be playing for France anytime soon if he doesn't get game time which will hurt him.
He won't get days off to be with his family.
If I have something you want then I'm in control.
It depends on whether the Dave's, like Jeremy Peace, want to exercise their rights.
The club clearly have a wage budget which is fairly sustainable for a club our size so we are still saving £55k per week then we usually were, plus we've already offloaded Zaza wages
The board must feel frustrated in the summer with our bids constantly being rejected as teams wouldn't budge on value, so don't think they'll let dimi walk on the cheap
If he trains with the reserves he will probably end up not turning up so we can fine him his wages so the loss isn't so bad
If OM want him they'll have to pay for him, it's their fault he wants out anyway as he's definately been tapped up
Once a week I get a live show with 2 journalists, he sometimes is on...
He IMO is another know it all character
Just because I can't help myself when it comes to the stats, Dimi has played 48 league games for us, 60 in total ;ok
Sign this six year contract and commit long-term, but if you throw a strop and refuse to play we'll sell you to the club of your choice at a premium?
How much does that kind of business cost long-term, if 3, 4, 5 star players do it over the coming years?
Let him rot in the reserves or apologise and wear the shirt with a bit of guts and dignity.
They bought Birmingham for a £1 and sold it for millions . They have made plenty of mistakes but no more than most owners I think clueless muppets is a tad harsh. We were months away for administration when they bought us and we are now a mid table club with a lot less debt. Not perfect by any means but not stupid or clueless would rather be owned by them than some faceless American/Chinese/Arab owner.
I feel for the lad if there genuinely is family issues, be it him or the wife at fault, family is always more important than football. If the solution to his marital issues is to live in France then fair enough, he wants to move there. It's a real pain for us, as potential destinations are limited, plus of course we are losing a player of real quality.
However, this downing tools attitude to force through a transfer is really a disgrace. Why cannot he keep playing and trying his best until the proposed transfer materialises. He is under a contract he was happy to sign mere months ago, that is what he should be doing.
I hate this (seemingly to me) new attitude by some footballers to, when they want to leave, not hand in an official transfer request but just state "i want to leave, I shan't play for you anymore". As far as I am aware by transferring without having handed an official request he (and his agent [get them out the game]) get bonus cash they would not if they handed a TR that should instead come to our club.
I also am disappointed with his efforts even when he has played this season. He (IMO) clearly has not worked as hard on the pitch as last season which was already irritating me before this whole 'transfer' saga started. And of course I'm sad to be losing a player I (used to) love watching.