I won't stand for this - The thread all about standing at the OS.

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  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Gold and Co may well bring it up with other owners regarding standing only areas but that will take time. Although if the majority of other owners don't agree, then there isn't anything that can be done. Look, stand up of you want but don't come on here moaning if they decide to make an example of you and ban you.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Aligibsonham said:

    Okay so hypothetically everyone sits down... WOudl you be happy to be one of only stadiums in elague with nobody stoodu up and the subsequent reduced atmosphere - which has already been slated by the media after our first game.

    Seems too many are happy to enjoy the good atmosphere standing areas create, whilst gloating arsenal etc for being quiet, whereas suddenly those same standers are now branded selfish? Ok.

    1. I'm not really interested in what the media say.
    2. The issue is 'persistent' standing. Nobody is suggesting fans have to be glued to their seats for the duration.
    3. I don't accept that the choice is between standing and silence.
    4. Most people's vocal chords still work while sitting down.

    5. imo anyone who by standing up stops someone else from being able to see, and won't sit down because 'it's the club's fault' is, yes, selfish. Putting their own wishes ahead of anyone else. Others may not agree, but I won't be persuaded otherwise.
    6. I don't believe that the motive of the 'standers' is to improve the experience for everybody else. Sorry, no can do.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    If it was only standers getting banned, then I'd say well it's their loss, up to them if they want to risk it, but the issue is also that it has cost, and could continue to cost, other fans the opportunity to come to the game, and that is simply selfish, imo.
  • MoojorMoojor
    Aligibsonham said:

    Moojor.... Very funny, but i think we both know much easier to be loud when standing hence why all singers stand up to sing (when they are able to) before some one very cleverly points out an exception.

    While it may be easier, it really wouldn't make much of a difference when you are bellowing terrace chants out. This isn't like you are trying to do an opera or project your solo voice over an arena.

    a few hundred people shouting while sitting at a football ground really wouldn't be that much different from a few hundred people standing and shouting.

    The problem is one of "image", normally the standing sections shout and the sitting sections are quiet. So people just don't think it would work but the difference really would be imperceivable if a whole stand sat and shouted.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited August 2016
    him_indoors and I make as much noise from our new seats as we did in the BML.

    I know, you are all shocked ;biggrin
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;lol

    So shocked I may need a medicinal ;redwine
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Can't let a lady drink alone... ;beer
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    Of course you can sing sitting down, Val Doonican made a career out of it... ;lol
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Preston ............... choruses of Paddy McGintys goat roaring out from the BML ;lol
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
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  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Aligibsonham said:



    Its an issue that a lot lot more people feel strongly about than is evident on here, and it will continue to be divisive.

    That much is obvious if you look at other forums e.g. KUMB or just listen to people unhappy at matches - and the fact is that if people continue to stand up for what they believe in then it is more likely that Gold Brady etc will look for a solution e.g. push for a league ruling change on safe standing/ create a 'singing section'...

    Or look to get a system in place where people can move now that it's very clear where the standing areas are, which funny enough are in the main the same as UP, who knew!!!!

    Otherwise they'll continue to end up with 3-9,000 off the capacity or it could be cut even further.

    There were people writing down numbers and taking pictures this isn't going away anytime soon and the club need to help find a solution.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    All sorts of trouble again last night and I don't just mean our poor display

    Fights breaking out, possible away fans in the home ends we really are a bit of a mess right now it's going to take a while

    And where are the old bill??!

    Seen next to none and the stewards don't want to get too involved and can you blame them?
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited August 2016
    Really heavy handed stewarding in the West Upper last night. The back row (about 10 guys) in the block next me me were standing up and chanting.

    The stewards where on them in seconds. It wasn't persistent standing and they were not blocking anyone's view.

    The stewards handled it really badly.

    It's a problem that isn't going away and it's only going to get worse.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    They seem to be focusing on the wrong people / issues while taking a laid back approach to fighting. During one of the punch ups there was a moment in play that caused them all to turn round and watch the action
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I saw that clip too - It's on the Stop Hammer Time face book page.

    Today I will be writing to the club.

    Yours sincerely
    Irate of Woolwich
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I took one of blokes from work as someone could n't go and he was v impressed with the stadium, I now have the germans at work asking me to get them tickets
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    9 ?
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited August 2016
    PLF - I don't have a problem with that.

    We had a spare ticket at the last minute and our Citeh mate was the first to respond with 'I'll go'.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I would rather someone went than an empty seat plus I got to blame him for our defeat ;lol I always ask the West Ham fans in the office first of course
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Away fans not in their bit.....
    Fans wearing other clubs shirts wandering around.....
    Home fans walking through away fan concourse.....
    People not even showing their ticket to get in......
    Bag checks nowhere near 100%......
    Fighting inside the ground between WHU fans...........
    Fighting inside the ground between WHU and non-WHU fans.....
    Fighting outside the ground between WHU and away fans....
    People who won't sit out of common decency for people behind......
    Seats not where they should be.....
    Seats that didn't exist......
    Seats covered that shouldn't be.....
    AFC, MUFC, CFC, THFC all trying out our new stadium, while thousands of Hammers can't get ST's.......and the club keep taking tenners for people on the list and Members who've got less and less chance of being picked.
    Having to commit to the 100,000 Newham freebies as part of the deal
    Can't get the 60K, let alone 66K certificate

    Happy days....

    I wonder if Karren will get her bonus?

    ;hmm
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Slizzy

    So nothing positive?

    No one who has gone has had a good word to say about the experience?

    It's all doom and gloom?
  • Putney_HammerPutney_Hammer
    Well the stewards in my block 113 were taking notes on seat numbers that people were standing I was standing but would have sat of the other rows in front sit be interesting to see if they are at the next game or me as I might get dragged in to it and banned and there also was a guy filming the standers as well. I'm waiting for at least a warning letter and not a complete ban because that really isn't fair.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2016
    At the end of the day, if you stand, you risk being banned, regardless of why you are standing.

    Best to stay seated during play and if anybody stands in front, politely ask them to sit because you can't see.

    There should be nothing wrong with that course of action.

    If they kick off, you have their seat number.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I have not got in the ground once without be searched and had to use my tickets to get through the barriers . I have been four times now and apart from a few minor gripes about the food concessions have nothing but positive things to say about it. People seem to be obsessing the negatives its a new stadium with new operators and there are teething problems. News stories that say West Ham ground good do not get written because people do not want to hear it they want it to be bad . Go to game and judge for yourself instead of taking opinions of people off the internet as gospel is all I ask you might be pleasantly surprised
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    PLF ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Comments about the new ground which isnt about standing moved here http://www.whu606.com/discussion/9799/http://www.whu606.com/discussion/9799/the-london-stadium-inaugural-season-2016-17-excluding-comments-about-standing#latest#latest
  • everhopefuleverhopeful
    I confess to standing for the whole game last night. There was a problem in the sale of the tickets, in that mine had been sold twice, although I had my email showing the numbers on them. The very nice stewards asked me if I would mind standing behind the disabled seats where the view was very good and came along every ten minutes to tell me they were still trying to find me a seat and would I mind still standing. The fun bit was watching them eject my fellow standers whilst apologising to me for disturbing my football!
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Slizzy

    So nothing positive?

    No one who has gone has had a good word to say about the experience?

    It's all doom and gloom?

    Grey - not at all, here you go, for a bit of balance.....

    Gaps were terrible but have been covered look good
    People seem happy with the drinks/menu and speed they get served
    Seat spacing, leg room decent
    they can get out and back in again for all those ;smoking
    The Atmosphere does sound better than I thought it would
    I love the look of the East Stand KOP, when I go, that's where I want to be
    The pitch looks closer from many locations than I thought it would
    Site lines appear comparable with other big stadiums, which they promised
    It does look more like our "home" than I thought it ever would, good work
    Cheap tickets, can't knock that. People moaned about that before now they're moaning that we've moved to bring "only" 12m a season more ticket revenue ;doh

    ;ok
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    It is interesting seeing the different cultures.

    Over here I see a whole array of club shirts at Toronto FC, i've warn my WHU before. but never see the opposition shirt.

    Plenty of kids wearing different shirts.

    I've seen some truly awful comments on Social Media about these shirts witnessed last night, this is the tourist piece the club has sold to, the "die hard" WHU fans don't like it, understandable but they're going to have to accept it to a point.

    Also last night was the first Newham ticket give away I think? That could of caused a few "neutrals"
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