The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

simonc

deehammer said:

Pards,
Would you rather that billionaire, Trump?
He who is bankrolled by Philip Morris of KKK fame as well as big conglomerates who have stitched up health insurance in America so much, that the ordinary people will have to pay exhorbitant premiums. Trump has vowed to cancel Obama Care which is the only lifeline to the poorest people!

Cannot disagree more Obama has been a disaster you only have to watch the news. I voted for him for his first term but he "changed" everything for the worse, there is now civil unrest to add to world issues which he refuses to address. As for Obama care it is an underfunded disaster, he lied to the working public that they could keep the policies they had then punished them for having "luxury policies" never again. I am voting Trump and dont be surprized if this election goes the way of Brexit, the silent majority will speak and it doesnt want any more of this

ASLEFshrugged

simonc said:

deehammer said:

Pards,
Would you rather that billionaire, Trump?
He who is bankrolled by Philip Morris of KKK fame as well as big conglomerates who have stitched up health insurance in America so much, that the ordinary people will have to pay exhorbitant premiums. Trump has vowed to cancel Obama Care which is the only lifeline to the poorest people!

Cannot disagree more Obama has been a disaster you only have to watch the news. I voted for him for his first term but he "changed" everything for the worse, there is now civil unrest to add to world issues which he refuses to address. As for Obama care it is an underfunded disaster, he lied to the working public that they could keep the policies they had then punished them for having "luxury policies" never again. I am voting Trump and dont be surprized if this election goes the way of Brexit, the silent majority will speak and it doesnt want any more of this

I've tried to think of a way of answering this nicely but....
.....voting Trump. Wow, I can't believe it.

pardewalegend

Dee
Any big cop oration backing a national leader is doing it for there own gain in the future

simonc

I would say the same of anyone voting Clinton she is such a snake you don't know what you are voting for other than more of this mess

simonc

Not much of a choice - bad and worse

IronHerb

She may be a snake but she knows the ways of the world which Trump doesn't

pardewalegend

Trump equals nutter

grey_til_I_dye

I can certainly see the attraction in electing a self-aggrandising buffoon who makes up policy as he goes along and changes his mind when it suits, who has demonstrated a vile attitude towards women, and who stokes the flames of racial/religious hatred, who has neither served in the forces or held public office, instead of a vastly experienced world politician.

I mean, what could go wrong?

McHammer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36855194

if anyone hasn't yet watched Trumps air kiss, please do, its cheering me up no end

OutcastLondoner

You're right. It does cheer you up.

simonc

Trump it is then ;ok

IronHerb

Now air guitar.......

adecoker

grey_til_I_dye said:

I can certainly see the attraction in electing a self-aggrandising buffoon who makes up policy as he goes along

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I can only see the attraction in electing a charlatan who doesn't have any policies.

grey_til_I_dye

ade

;nonono

No policies?

You, sir, are forgetting the Wall of Trump!

baracks_a_hammer

grey_til_I_dye said:

I can certainly see the attraction in electing a self-aggrandising buffoon who makes up policy as he goes along and changes his mind when it suits, who has demonstrated a vile attitude towards women, and who stokes the flames of racial/religious hatred, who has neither served in the forces or held public office, instead of a vastly experienced world politician.

I mean, what could go wrong?

Until I read the public office bit, I thought you were referring to Boris...

SuzanneClaret

SuzanneClaret

pardewalegend

Blimey and there's enough people in this country who do next to nothing and get very well looked after

baracks_a_hammer

Yep the bankers who gamble with other people's money

IronHerb

Yeah, throw em all out on the street and let them starve

pardewalegend

That's abit harsh herb lol

pardewalegend

Every bank in this country that took a bailout should of been forced to pay every penny back in full out of future profits, whether it took 5 years or 25 years
That should of happened

Swissiron

but my understanding is that most of the banks have now paid back that money. Only RBS hasn't. And none of the banks in France have..

IronHerb

When they bailed out Lloyds and RBS the government took shares for the cash. They have sold back into the market around 75% of the Lloyds holding and will, at worse, break even on the bailout. They still
own around 70% of RBS and can't sell into the market due to the depressed price, made worse by Brexit.

baracks_a_hammer

Not all shares have suffered as a result of Brexit - one look at the ftse 100 will tell you that - 6700 plus

IronHerb

No. but banks that serve the UK market were hit heavily. Anyway Brexit hasn't taken affect yet so
let's wait and see

AdMeus_CaputFilius

Yet every story in the media where there is a hint of down turn of any sort (orders, house building, manufacturing etc.) is attributed to it, with them conveniently forgetting that it was already happening before the vote. Particularly manufacturing and house building - mind you in the house building it is only "affordable and Low Cost" (as they do not make the margins on them they need to) there are still plenty of 'luxury' flats and apartments being built - problem is they are not selling due to the astronomical prices. Any slow down in building is purely down to them (the Builders) slowing building down to stimulate demand. Like a lot of other sectors they have private investors who have lent out expecting a high return, the builders foolishly promising them such, and also expecting huge profits themselves.

I even heard on the news again this week the BHS situation blamed on Brexit - we all know BHS was in trouble and administration long before the vote.

There are a lot of people out there using Brexit as a smoke screen and making a mint - lets hope they get named and shamed (not holding my breath though).

IronHerb

Who is making a mint then? And don't include the financial markets who always make a mint, especially when there is uncertainty.

pardewalegend

Brexit or no Brexit some people will always make a mint

Dodger58

Whilst others will always suck one