The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

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  • edited July 2016

    Remove them
    They shouldn't be here anyway!!
    Unless!!
    Speak the language
    Clean criminal record
    Clean health record
    Have a skill
    Have a job to go to ( sponsor)
    Have money to be self sufficient as the state will pay for nothing.

    That's not racist that's common sense there is no point allowing anyone to come unless they are going to make us better

    And presumably you will agree that they only pay (say) 50% of the normal rate of income tax then, since you seem so keen to restrict their access to things that the state funds with income tax, such as schools for their kids or the NHS.

  • the present government was elected (IMO) on one manifesto promise, and one alone, that they would hold a referendum. Again it seems fair to me that said government should act on the result of said referendum.

    This is all complete speculation. You have no evidence for how significant the referendum promise was in getting people to vote Tory.

    Have you?

    ( ;sofa and waits for #statbomb )
  • Alderz vs Eskiboi III
  • So what are we saying here - if the people had voted in the same direction as the majority of MPs then this should then be respected but then if the people had voted against the majority of MPs, then what the MPs think should just be carried through anyway?

    Yep, sounds totally fair and equitable to me.
  • Baracks - yep, sounds about right to me. Democracy 'remain style' ;biggrin
  • baracks

    Well, no, not me, at least.

    I said it should never have been put to the people.
  • Greys

    If we are allowing qualified people to come here and fill in our shortfalls for jobs, perfect they will work hard pay tax and be entitled to what they should be.

    If however they are unskilled have no job, don't speak the language have no money if there own etc etc

    Why on earth should we have them here
  • edited July 2016
    So what are we saying here - if the people had voted against the majority of MPs, then what the MPs think should just be carried through anyway?
    The government frequently pushes through legislation to enact a policy thata minority of people voted for in a General Election.

    That's democracy ;wink


    --

    I don't know what you are saying, but it actually wasn't what I said in my earlier post. ;ok
  • MrsGrey said:

    the present government was elected (IMO) on one manifesto promise, and one alone, that they would hold a referendum. Again it seems fair to me that said government should act on the result of said referendum.

    This is all complete speculation. You have no evidence for how significant the referendum promise was in getting people to vote Tory.

    Have you?

    ( ;sofa and waits for #statbomb )

    66% of those people who voted Conservative at the last election admitted that they did so on the promise of a EU referendum.

  • pardew

    You stated
    They shouldn't be here anyway!!
    I asked you what that was based on.
  • And I just told you
  • I did only ask three people though............................................ ;whistle
  • Romaine28 said:

    Sweepstake for when this thread gets closed ;wink

    lolololol

    20.32

    Tonight
  • Greys

    If we are allowing qualified people to come here and fill in our shortfalls for jobs, perfect they will work hard pay tax and be entitled to what they should be.

    You said the state would pay for nothing?

    If they work + pay tax and would be 'entitled to all things' as a UK citizen would, why will they need to prove they have money to be self-sufficient?

    And if, after a couple of years, they lose their job? They will be entitled to benefits, having paid taxes in the normal way, wouldn't you agree?

    And, another flaw in your cunning plan - it is often the unskilled and dirty jobs where there is a shortfall.
  • madcap ;lol
  • Moojor - oh well, if two of you agreed it must be right then - that's me well and truly put back in my box then. ;wink
  • MrsGrey

    Where did I say in my post that those statements were lies.?


    We won't know for at least two years what will happen with trade so that is at least a half-truth.
    I doubt if Cameron would have got a better deal on immigration as free movement is one of the EUs main priorities.

    I have my strong beliefs as do you so I don't think we will come to any middle ground on this subject.

    Mike


  • Cunning plan!!!!
    I have duel citizenship for Australia I had to transfer 20k to an Aussie bank account before I arrived.
    Also had three medical a over the period of three years it took me to get it.
    Had to have a job to go to and the employer letter proving it
    Criminal record check
    Amongst a whole host of other things
    Is that a cunning plan
    No it's not it's getting the right people in for the best interests of the country
  • Pards how did you get on proving you were the right person ;lol
  • At least this expains the flamin galah

    #alf
  • I think this debate can be summed up in the words of this great protest song. In? Out? It`s a serious issue and this song puts it beautifully:

  • Lolololololollol

    Like the Aussie PM said yesterday

    If anyone that has moved to Aussie does not respect there values and way of like your free to go we don't want you here

    Quality
  • edited July 2016

    Moojor - oh well, if two of you agreed it must be right then - that's me well and truly put back in my box then. ;wink

    A little harsh ;puzzled

    You accused Remainers of sour grapes and challenged them to point out where they said BEFORE the vote that they were anti the referendum process.

    So some did.
  • mike said:

    MrsGrey

    Where did I say in my post that those statements were lies.?

    Apologies ;ok

    You referred to lies and half lies. I conflated that with a post just before it where the question was asked what lies the 'Remain' side told.


  • No problem MrsGrey ;ok
  • Borders are stupid.
  • edited July 2016
    I was in the transfer thread and my post turned up here...
  • ;doh ;lol
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