The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

IronHerb

I love this statement - "Many of them with degrees can't even get a job serving coffee in Starbucks".

Why should having a degree make anyone automatically suitable to work in a coffee shop? ;hmm

Moojor

Sadly, what's done is done.

I truely hope that the leave campaigns promises about things being all great come to pass.

I hope that in 20 years my daughter can tell me that I was wrong and things turned out well.

I hope that I can look at my daughter in 20 years and at her friends and say, we didn't totally mess thing up for your generation.

Right now, I just don't believe that any of the above is going to come to pass.

;poppy

ironmike44

Herb - think you missed my, clumsily put, point. I was trying to point out that in Spain, where Madridhammer resides, youth unemployment is so high that even jobs serving coffee are almost impossible to get. Regardless of the individuals education, Spain's continued membership of the EU seems unlikely to change this situation.

Colchester_Iron

Moojor, amen to that.

OutcastLondoner

I guess now is the most important time in politics of my lifetime. There's no point telling people they voted the wrong way and even someone in mid-20s strongly against a major aspect of the out campaign, I don't like this "old people ruined it" thing. Older people might not live through much of the changes but I'm sure they thought it would be good for their children.

I think the most important thing is that everyone stays switched on about all these claims about how they would improve the country after a Brexit. If it wasn't all about immigration, then we have to make sure they do actually make policies that go beyond that. I think that's everyone's responsibility. Otherwise the country has effectively just had a vote on hating other people.

Ironduke

Consider this, Mark Carney, a Canadian head of our bank of England has recently divulged publicly the fiscal measures to stablise the economy in the advent of a leave victory. The measures have been raified by the IMf and European Central Bank, and given their support!

;hmm why did`nt he reassure voters of his plans intead of painting a doom version

SuzanneClaret

Because no one told the truth.

secrethammersfan

A point of interest: by the time the UK is ready to leave the EU, a significant portion of those who voted 'Leave' will be dead.

IronHerb

And what difference does it make that he's Canadian?

grey_til_I_dye

Maybe because it's better not to have a fire than to assure people you have plans in place if one breaks out?

SuzanneClaret

Oh I like that.

ironmike44

Herb - perhaps you should ask Alan Sugar - he is bound to have a view on it. ;wink

IronHerb

Sugar is one of this old people who voted Leave ;lol

ironmike44

Oh come on! I know he is a liar and a cheat but surely even he wouldn't stoop so low ;biggrin

Ironduke

I mentioned his nationality to see who bit

IronHerb

You say that now ;hmm

grey_til_I_dye

Ironduke

Please don't post things to 'get a reaction'.

Ta.

Expat_Hammer

secrethammersfan said:

A point of interest: by the time the UK is ready to leave the EU, a significant portion of those who voted 'Leave' will be dead.

I sincerely hope not ;nonono

IronHerb

2 years is a long time in politics, but not that long

claretandbluesky

Just so sad - still not sure how it happened.

Did 52% of the population take us out of the EU, broke up the UK, scattered the UK economy just starting to edge forward after the financial crisis, sent jobs away for so little in return. In considering risk and reward it just makes no sense.

My son completed his GCSE's today and came home depressed instead of happy, he looked like someone just sold his future in front of him, broke my heart.

simonc

I don't see much difference from the "be careful what you wish for" comments last year. It turned out OK & if the Exit is well managed it too can turn out well. I think the UK has a vested interest in creating legislation that benefits the UK unlike the EU which does not.

Yeoldhammer

As a young person. My generation have seriously being ruined. But the pension pot will be the first to be ripped up in 10 to 15 years.

Lukerz

The next 10 years are gonna be great. I'll be 33. Hope it's looking more positive than it is now and that I look back at voting remain as a "what was I doing moment".

thornburyiron

Yeold. Gordon brown destroyed the pensions for people by huge taxation and by selling outfield reserves. Leaving the EU does not directly impact on pensions.
If the EU is do wonderful why is unemployment so high and most countries in financial chaos.
Everyone seems to be blaming the over 65s and insinuating that they're ignorant and uneducated. Don't forget they've all been there and done it and know what a complete fiasco it is. It's sole purpose is to be a European state headed by Germany and as such has already applied for a seat on the UN council.

Yeoldhammer

The EU isn't perfect.

But at least they built safeguards for people something THIS countries politicians voted against.

So now we have an economy tanking which will tank further when scotland leaves the UK with more market uncertainty. Giving the tories the perfect excuse for more cuts and austerity.

My prospects going forward are rubbish.

SuzanneClaret

Yeoldhammer said:

As a young person. My generation have seriously being ruined. But the pension pot will be the first to be ripped up in 10 to 15 years.

I'm cashing mine in and putting it in a shoe box under the bed.

Expat_Hammer

SuzanneClaret said:

Yeoldhammer said:

As a young person. My generation have seriously being ruined. But the pension pot will be the first to be ripped up in 10 to 15 years.

I'm cashing mine in and putting it in a shoe box under the bed.

Will there be room with OCS and Hamstew already stashed ;lol

SuzanneClaret

;nonono I didn't think of that!!

Hamstew

Just me under there. OCS made his choice with Ravel

SuzanneClaret

So he did.

So he did.