The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    And how will that go down.

    UK parliament allows a referendum on EU membership.

    Denies the Scots a vote on their own future.

    Untenable, surely?

  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    #hypocrisy
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So Corbyn said he didn't like the EU but was voting remain

    I suspect that would have confused the hell out of labour supporters up and down the country

    He is probably decent enough, and certainly is different, but has never been leadership material.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He said he was 7/10 Remain ;doh
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    IronHerb said:

    He said he was 7/10 Remain ;doh

    Is he Braderz?? ;hmm
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Mrs G I don't profess to know how it works. The law which was passed to allow the first one may deny another one for a period of years.
    At this rate people seem to want referenda on a best of three or five or first to 10 basis.
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    We had a referendum on Scottish membership of the UK. The Scots voted to remain part of the UK.

    We had a referendum on UK (not Scottish) membership of the EU. As part of the UK, all Scots were entitled to vote on UK membership of the EU. Those that wanted to vote did. The UK voted to leave the EU.

    #NoHypocrisy
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    thornburyiron said:

    Moojor the UK parliament has to approve/make the law change to allow another referendum. The Scots can't just have one.

    No. I think you'll find that the Scottish Parliament can arrange and carry out the referendum as Sturdeon said "the Scottish government would begin preparing legislation to enable another independence vote."
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited June 2016
    IMO it's the beginning of the end of the EU in its current form. There'll be a queue of countries looking at us and demanding they have a similar say.

    Eventually all that could be left is a German republic overseeing struggling economies such as Portugal, Spain and Italy
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    And a totally bankrupt Greece.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited June 2016
    thin end of the wedge...

    China and The US are laughing like drains...
  • MoojorMoojor
    Scotland voted to remain in the UK which was part of the EU and therefore by extension Scotland were in the EU.

    Not that the situation has changed dramatically and added to the fact that Scotland voted to remain in the EU, they will be doing what ever they can do ensure they get that vote.
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    Agreed Moojor. I'm sure they will be looking for a referendum.

    The referendum yesterday was about Britain's membership of the EU. Not Scotland's membership of the EU.

    I see what you and other people are driving at. Personally, I am not bothered if the Scots have an annual referendum on UK membership. Just thought I would point out a couple of facts.



  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Since 1945 there have been thirteen Prime Ministers of which six took office when their predecessor quit and only one - Anthony Eden - called an immediate General Election

    The question is will Corbyn resign because unless he quits he's likely to win should there be a challenge. Earlier this year there was a poll of Labour members on that scenario, over 60% backed Corbyn, more than when he was elected leader.
  • simoncsimonc
    Looks like the Euro savings will need to be spent on rebuilding Hadrian's wall, the Scott's will keep voting till they get the answer they want, that's what they call democracy
  • McHammerMcHammer
    62% of voters in Scotland wanted to stay (74% in my city of Edinburgh). The mood here is not a happy one.
  • simoncsimonc
    If i am not mistaken, the UK voted and the UK decided, the 48% pro Euro faction are spread throughout the UK not just Scotland. Is Scotland going to continue to threaten to leave every time it doesn't get what it wants?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Scotland took an independence vote based on the UK being in Europe. The playing field has changed considerably and so, imo, they should get to vote again.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Bit like what the UK has done in respect of European Union. ;ok
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    edited June 2016
    We can always vote to go back in after the EU has been reformed and the playing field has changed.
  • simoncsimonc
    So if the Scottish and Northern Ireland votes had kept the UK in Europe then no one would have questioned England and Wales having another referendum to split the UK?
    I think not
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    McHammer said:

    62% of voters in Scotland wanted to stay (74% in my city of Edinburgh). The mood here is not a happy one.

    McHammer-I'm genuinely on your side over this one & I hope Scotland gets its independence a.s.a.p.
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    Ok, I have a vested interest because I live in Madrid so let's get that one out of the way.
    Looking at the bigger picture I'm utterly terrified for our country,I'm furious that the over 65s have swung the vote towards leave & ruined the prospects of the nation's youth & fearful that the likes of Farage could have a serious say in how the country is run.The man is evil.
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    SuzanneClaret said:

    Good.

    Labour need a strong person at the helm..... someone to combat Boris.

    Andy Burnham for me.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    madridhammer said:

    SuzanneClaret said:

    Good.

    Labour need a strong person at the helm..... someone to combat Boris.

    Andy Burnham for me.
    Oh yes... great shout ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    A lot of uncertainty ahead for high street banks, as all our armed robbers come back from Spain.

    Credit; Frankie Boyle
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    edited June 2016
    We are still allowed to have police.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    madridhammer said:

    Ok, I have a vested interest because I live in Madrid so let's get that one out of the way.
    Looking at the bigger picture I'm utterly terrified for our country,I'm furious that the over 65s have swung the vote towards leave

    Interesting analysis here of the demographics of the In/Out voters. (scroll down a bit).
    Comparing the results to key demographic characteristics of the local authority areas, some patterns emerge more clearly than others. The best predictor of a vote for remain is the proportion of residents who have a degree.
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    simonc said:

    So if the Scottish and Northern Ireland votes had kept the UK in Europe then no one would have questioned England and Wales having another referendum to split the UK?
    I think not

    To be frank Simon, I don't think you will get to decide.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited June 2016
    Colchester_Iron said:

    We are still allowed to have police.

    Not if Theresa May has anything to do with it.

    #group4
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