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I see what you're saying in these posts, and I do genuinely appreciate that if he has family issues they may be clouding his judgement.
However, as others have suggested, I believe that Slav would have handled it far differently had the player not simply said that he refused to play.
Look at the Sakho issue, Amalfitano, Zarate, Arbeloa. There were rumours of all sorts going on for all of those players, but what did Slav say about them? Nothing. He didn't come out all guns blazing at Amalfitano. He just let him leave quietly.
You saw his interview, he was absolutely gutted. I just can't believe that he would have been so angry and upset if he was under the impression that Dimi was having a tough time at home.
But he apologized and came back.
Nobody knows if the family stuff came up originally and was then dealt with sympathetically (my "guess" is that it was, hence the period of allowing him to skip training).
Something else has gone on imo whether it be broken "promises" on both sides or whatever. I still maintain that Payet wanted a move in the summer and the club said no, but next summer "yes" and something has changed somewhere in all that, possibly the family stuff has brought his need to leave forward, perhaps he thought he could stick it out until then and is now being pressured by his partner? Or the circumstances in their relationship drastically changed? Who knows.
He didn't necessarily grab a loyalty bonus either, and then try and run off. Signing on fees are generally paid like that these days, you don't ask to leave you get your "bonus" in instalments.
I do wonder why Slav was adamant that he was not for sale last week, but here we are giving Marseille a put up or shut up ultimatum, which clearly shows he is for sale.
I would imagine almost every player at every club has a price.
Why come out like this?
Not like the club at all, they cover most things up
Perhaps Slav had enough and was left to deal with it and that's how he felt at the time
;hmm
Anyway ;wave
I don't know if you can say the club cover most things up, when one of the regular criticisms of the owners is that they don't shut up and it causes people embarrassment.
Length of Andy Carroll's injuries, Arbeloa fall out with Slav
Vs
Telling the world our transfer targets and how much we've bid
Perhaps I should've worded it better
Cover most "negative" things up
;ok
and where is the evidence they covered up the length of Carroll's injuries? Honest question, as nothing I've read has said that other than like opinion pieces ok Claret & Hugh.
Where did I say it was a criticism? (First time round)
I'm just saying what they seem to normally do in these situations, they've covered up other stuff including Sakho meltdowns as well, but with Payet it's come to the front, im just curious as to why, did Slav have enough with the player the board all of them?
Carroll's injury was 4-6 weeks yet it took months and they didn't want to release that info because it was carroll again and a negative along with what was going on at the stadium at the time
Arbeloa was reported as having a knock before palace away (3 at the back) and never had an injury update mentioned until he suddenly returned in a game where we had no choice but to play him, he then got a proper injury (severe bruising?) The first knock wasn't real he'd fallen out with Slav.
Sorry I can't give you a quote and I'm not going down that road again
;ok
It's funny to me that you love to prod at people and wind up but the second some questions your high and all powerful word (not even aggressively, I should add) you kick off.
What you'll notice through all of the comments I've made about this whole saga, is that I believe he has family issues. My point has always been that ther are ways to deal with things. I don't see this as something you can beat the owners for.
But you go for it, pal.
;ok
(I can say what I like it I end it with a thumbs up, right?)
I'm not questioning what your opinion is, I'm just telling you mine, that's it. If you choose not to believe it, honestly it's fine!! Where have i kicked off?!?!
You brought up the "criticism" of the club over certain situations, I just said what it appeared to me that they "normally" do or behave in certain negative situations.
I've given you examples of the way the club acted, if you don't think that is true that's okay
You know what I was going to walk away yesterday and probably should've done, well now I am, because if I'm having these words with someone like you then something is wrong somewhere, so I'll leave, it must be me.
;thumbsup
HAMMERS DOUBT MARSEILLE BID
West Ham have told Dimitri Payet they will not sell him on the cheap, privately doubting Marseille’s ability to meet their £30m asking price.
That’s according to The Guardian, who report the Hammers are willing to keep Payet at the club through to the end of the season if necessary.
Marseille’s second offer of £20m was turned down earlier this week.
1. Pragmatism: Payet was 100% clear and determined he won't play for West Ham ever again, and Slav recognises that his efforts to change Payet's mind have failed. So there's no way it can be hidden and no point, as it will become clear soon enough.
2. Frankness: Slav knew that the 1st question in the presser would be about player availability, so just got on with telling them the situation before they asked.
3. Damage limitation: They decided to get it out there as soon as the situation became irreversible, to avoid all the rumour and gossip that would annoy the fans and make more negative waves about the club.
4. Honesty: because it's the truth.
1. They are the only ones who want him.
2. He is the sort of person who doesn't adapt well to new places and languages, and wants the safety and security of what he knows.