I'm not questioning what your opinion is, I'm just telling you mine, that's it. If you choose not to believe it, honestly it's fine!! Where have i kicked off?!?!
You brought up the "criticism" of the club over certain situations, I just said what it appeared to me that they "normally" do or behave in certain negative situations.
I've given you examples of the way the club acted, if you don't think that is true that's okay
I see your point Slizz. The club do cover the negative things up (Gold said Carroll was fit in 1-2 weeks, when he was actually out for a lot longer)
It was a surprise it all came out at once (Payet situation) but i think it was pure emotion from Bilic. He was the one who got him playing like that, talked him up, got him back in the France squad. Remember in the Euros Slav jumping on the table celebrating his goal?
Now its all been thrown back in his face. Refusing to play. Shocking. He's let Bilic and the club down. Im glad Bilic came out and told the truth.
If 'ITKs' are given the benefit if the doubt, with the excuse that 'things might change between their first statement and what actually ends up being the case', why isn't anyone else?
I wonder if Marseille thougt they could tap him up get him to kick up a fuss and have their player at a price of their choosing, and now we are saying no and expecting a reasonable sum they recognise you cant really pay 30m for a 30 year old. Poor Dimi's tail will be between his legs.
One very good season after ten years of nobody ever having heard of him, then the next season turns into a lazy, strop-throwing liability and refuses to play for his club only a few months into a huge long-term contract (for whatever reason).
Don't get me wrong, relative to the market and other recent deals, he is worth a lot.
BUT the market doesn't always work like that. He's worth as much as a team wants/needs him.
He's too lazy for the managers of Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool and Spurs. Arsenal don't pay big on players of his age. Madrid and Barca aren't signing anybody, the rest of La Liga is skint.
So you're left with Marseille who sold him for £10 million only last season (how do they feel about buying him back for £30 million?) or PSG maybe, a big German team? Or China, who would pay big, but probably unlikely.
The one consolation is if we flogged him for £25m and he produced wonders for Marseille at least it wouldn't be in our league, and therefore we would not have our faces openly rubbed in the dirt
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It was a surprise it all came out at once (Payet situation) but i think it was pure emotion from Bilic. He was the one who got him playing like that, talked him up, got him back in the France squad. Remember in the Euros Slav jumping on the table celebrating his goal?
Now its all been thrown back in his face. Refusing to play. Shocking. He's let Bilic and the club down. Im glad Bilic came out and told the truth.
D27P trained with the u23's today
Trained on his own yest
Tomorrow: trains with the first team
Friday: carried around on a plinth by the rest of the team
Saturday: becomes manager
Sunday: rests
Maybe DP is thinking about early retirement
and who can blame
;beer
lololol
We're gonna ship him out
Ain't nothing about Dimi
That we care about.
I said 1 - 2 - 3 ship your Dimi out
I said 1 - 2 - 3 ship your Dimi out, yeah
Sully stand your ground!
I'd be incredibly disappointed if we sell him for that amount.
Anything less than £30m should be laughed off just how Hull laughed off our £3m Snodgrass offer.
One very good season after ten years of nobody ever having heard of him, then the next season turns into a lazy, strop-throwing liability and refuses to play for his club only a few months into a huge long-term contract (for whatever reason).
Who pays £30 million for that?
So how about Marseille pay £25m and Payet pays £5m-£10m. Done and done. ;ok
What about his age?
What about his attitude?
I'm not so sure he's worth as much as he hoped he would be when this kicked off.
But I guess we'll find out as the window goes on ;hmm
BUT the market doesn't always work like that. He's worth as much as a team wants/needs him.
He's too lazy for the managers of Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool and Spurs. Arsenal don't pay big on players of his age. Madrid and Barca aren't signing anybody, the rest of La Liga is skint.
So you're left with Marseille who sold him for £10 million only last season (how do they feel about buying him back for £30 million?) or PSG maybe, a big German team? Or China, who would pay big, but probably unlikely.
;hmm
Mark Noble and James Collins told Payet that he was not invited to join them for their squad meal out. [via @ExWHUemployee]
Sell him as he's never ever going to play if he's lost the support of his teammates (add the fans made their feelings clear)