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I've got no idea if the likes of Nene and Paulista gave 100% as both were brought into the club but were not afforded much game time by their managers at the time.
I just don't understand.
But everyone believes Sakho issues and Velancia kid problems
But that's different right?
I mean Sakho wouldn't tour (which is basically train) and failed and important medical comes back for duty some 3 months late and that's all fine.
SMH
He didn't say that, he said Payet has refused to play.
My personal opinion is that his behaviour doesn't tally with somebody whose reason for leaving is so valid -
Playing at 75% all season
Refusing to play for the club again
His silence in the face of all the criticism
I don't think anybody at the club would have begrudged him moving for his family, but the fact Slav was so devastated and has sent the guy to train with the youngsters, as well as Payet's behaviour, suggests otherwise.
I completely sympathise with family issues but I see no evidence for it and it still doesn't give you the right to say you aren't playing for the club again ;ok
;hmm
My point is that from what you said yesterday, I took you to be unconcerned about who the player is - whether 'big name' or unknown.
But today you seem (from how I read your comment) to be saying thank god Sully won't be signing somebody we've never heard of.
I took it to be a contradiction ;ok
He also said he wouldn't divulge any of the details around their conversations.
He also said he was not for sale yet 5 days later Sully meets OM representatives
If you really think this is as cut and dried that's fine, time will tell
(Note to the Mods - looks like we've got a database glitch, everyone of the agrees for Jordan is generating FIVE or somehow he's getting mine, Twists and Lukes, please have a look when you get chance, cheers!)
It's pretty evident that he has been tapped up by Marseilles, and whilst he might be potentially earning abit less than his deal at WHU, it would still be significantly more than what he was originally on at Marseilles and given Image rights, his vastly boosted profile, etc, etc i'm sure his earnings wouldn't be that different to what he is currently generating. Unless the club has given them permission to speak, then we should report them for brazen tapping up.
I would like the club take as hard a stance as possible because it has to serve as a reminder to football to respect the validity of their contracts and how to conduct themselves. I dont see his value diminishing from now until the summer even if he doesnt play, everyone knows how good a player he is and the impact he can have on teams, so unless a team is willing to stump up 35-40 million then he will have to accept the consequences of his actions; although, as stated before, the beauty of Slavens press conference has resulted in all the power being with Bilic, so if Payet wants to play football for us, then he will have to train stringently, apologise to everyone and work himself into the ground for the cause to even come remotely close to rebuilding his relationships and WHU career.
As for how its going to play out?, I think eventually Marseilles will get upto 30 million and maybe Payet will have to contribute something towards it (in some shape or form) as well to take it up abit higher. WHUFC gain a sizeable fee, an alienated player off the books and substantial savings with the highest earner off the books, saving millions in the process.
Although not going against the establishment does have its perks every now and then
;wink
Nobody will know what his family are going through. Something small to us could be massive to them. There are some pretty big rumours out there (cue the police ;biggrin ) about what has gone on add to that being away from "home" who knows how it's afffected them?
I just want it resolved one way or another that's all
I get that it is (mainly) a gag but I'm a bit tired of this 'circle' stuff. I don't feel creating or imagining 'parties' is helpful for the site.
People have views; people express views. That's it.
Personally, I experience all the negative attitudes of being perceived as the director of the 'party line' and the 'dictator' of the site, without any of the actual pleasure of doing whatever I like.
Does make me ;lol someone can continually question certain people's comments and their opinions looking for some fact or quote, all the while repeating their own "opinion" acting like some kind of "police", but adding a little smiley at the end to make it "all right".........however make a little joke about it, then that's it all hell breaks loose.
You guys carry on, this is a great site, always has been, probably always will be.
;ok
As to your 'police' reference, I have no idea what that means.
My own view on it: WHU and Bilic invested everything into Payet because he is a world class player, who through circumstance fit WHU perfectly and they planned to build around him, with him committing himself to the club for the last big contract/period of his career. Payet and his agent conversely probably took the new deal because he could always do what he has done (go on strike) , but extra security with much more money and with the big finish to the PL and euros in his home country to come, he could do enough to attract a major move in the summer. That didnt come to fruition and with everything being a bit more difficult this season, he impetuously decided he didn't want to commit to the team anymore and subsequently the club also. It sucks how it has unfolded but hopefully the club and , most importantly, the fans learn from this.
Nothing wrong with a bit of squabbling and bickering on site IMO It'd be boring if we all had the same opinion and viewpoint.
Some of us are intelligent and informed. Some of us are just special ;thumbsup
Wick Mayall ;bowdown
Flash by name, flash by nature.
Forgotten how much I liked that series. ;nolan
Eh! No, no, - Don't buy the GSB hype on this, we really wasn't.
I will leave at that, no point in going over old history, best leave it in the past (don't forget it's the victor who writes their version of the history - not necessarily the true one).
There's such a lot of it about... ;lol
Let's say Dimi's wife has had an affair, moved back to France to be with the new fella and taken the kids with her, leaving Dimi alone in England, no kids, no other half etc. His view is 'with all due respect, I don't give two hoots that Slav, Noble and the fans worshiped me and put faith in me, I need to sort my life out. I'm not in the mindset to train and play football, in the pressure cooker of the PL, with private stresses going on, potentially having detrimental effects on my well-being'.
He might know what he should've done, but what matters is what he has done because, to him, WHU just isn't that important right now.
Because, if Slav is to be believed, what he said was 'I'm not in the mindset to play for West Ham ever again'.
It's not the same thing.
In fact the major issue.
(If that's what you were implying.)