Dimi Payet; the Epilogue

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

MrsGrey said:

On the family thing, it still doesn't justify what he has done, for me.

Absolutely, not a lot would justify the way he's handled this.

But as you say, it is a factor, I'm sure one of MANY, there could've been promises from the board, the manager, the player, all broken one after the other, who knows?

It sounds like Bilic has tried his hardest to help the player and whether that hasn't worked or Payet's situation (family) was perhaps bigger than what the club thought, the manager has done his job and did it again when explaining why he was not up for selection against Palace.

Lets just hope there isn't too much more to this story other than the Payet piece and there wasn't another kind of message being sent by Bilic.

jay_in_cpt

Slav ;ok
It's only the way he has handled it ..
By doing what he has , he has now alienated himself from everyone connected to the club IMO ..

I have no issue if he's homesick or his family are, as u said , it's all about the way he has gone about it & nothing else for me...

OutcastLondoner

MrsGrey said:

Just re-reading the stuff about 'Payet upset he comes across as greedy'. (if it is true.)

;hmm

I haven't really seen (on here or in the media I have read) that money is being put forward as his motivation? Apart from the China rumours, which I don't put much store in.

It seems to me that the criticism has mostly focused on his actions, not his motives?

Well, if he really has been bugging them about his family situation, then maybe he'd be upset because the club make no reference to that in their story, making it look like he just thinks he's better.

Bilic doesn't come across as someone who would take such an aggressive position (the press conference) if there was a genuine grievance. If he has, it would make me question him.

If family was the problem, then I think Payet saying he wouldn't play one week might not necessarily apply to the week after. It would've been an emotional decision that might've been fixed. It seems Bilic felt that Payet wasn't thinking along those lines.

thornburyiron

The family thing only seems to be because they've gone back to France, why we don't know. Footballers lives are different to ours because most weekends either a Saturday or Sunday is taken up but during the week they don't train every day and when they find its generally for a couple of hours. My family when they were young would have loved (I assume) for me to be home most afternoons and evenings but that wasn't possible. When my daughter was born I was working in Bristol and my wife and she were in Colchester. I travelled home late Friday night and left again Sunday afternoon until such time as I could move them down with me. During this time my mother in law broke her leg and was staying with my wife so she was looking after her at the same time. (maybe my being in Bristol wasn't so hard for me after all ;wink ).

MrsGrey

outcast

If family was the problem, then I think Payet saying he wouldn't play one week might not necessarily apply to the week after. It would've been an emotional decision that might've been fixed. It seems Bilic felt that Payet wasn't thinking along those lines.

;ok

When Bilic announced it, didn't he basically say that Dimi had told him a few days ago that he wouldn't play for West Ham again. Then after being given a few days to reflect, he told Slav on the phone that he was sticking by his decision?

TwistandShout

Will be interesting what he says when he is sold ;hmm

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

;ok

baracks_a_hammer

He may not say anything at all. If a deal is concluded there might be a compromise agreement forbidding either party from commenting further.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

ASLEFshrugged said:

Jorderz - he is supposed to have agreed terms with Marsielle before they even made an offer. The lad wants to go home (or more accurately Mrs Payet doesn't like Loughton. And who can blame her)

The other day you were saying not to believe anything except what Bilic has said, and barely even that! ;lol

How do you now know all of this?

Why are you questioning so much that people are bringing to the forum? I would say it's part opinion and part what they've read?

I am Honestly curious?

It's a forum, and I'm asking a question about ASLEF's source of information ;lol

I know, I'm bang out of order ;lol

madridhammer

Go back to when he won Hammer Of The Year last year & look at the acceptance speech.It was all done via an interpreter despite him playing an entire season here.I know from personal experience that learning another language isn't easy but to not be able to say a simple 'thank you very much' at the end of an entire season in English strikes me that he never intended to stay very long in the first place.

baracks_a_hammer

The one good thing to come out of this is at least sully's time will be so consumed that he won't have the time to unearth some obscure South American gem and place them on the club's payroll on 31st Jan

MrsGrey

Yesterday you said you didn't care about signing 'big names', only signing players that would give 100%

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

ASLEFshrugged said:

Jorderz - he is supposed to have agreed terms with Marsielle before they even made an offer. The lad wants to go home (or more accurately Mrs Payet doesn't like Loughton. And who can blame her)

The other day you were saying not to believe anything except what Bilic has said, and barely even that! ;lol

How do you now know all of this?

Why are you questioning so much that people are bringing to the forum? I would say it's part opinion and part what they've read?

I am Honestly curious?

It's a forum, and I'm asking a question about ASLEF's source of information ;lol

I know, I'm bang out of order ;lol

Think it's the way you ask Pal, you sound like the "Rumour Police"

;biggrin

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

;lol

I can think of worse things to be ;ok

ASLEF was calling me out the other day saying we have no facts apart from what Bilic said, so it was more a tongue-in-cheek nudge to that than anything else, nothing vindictive.

I think if somebody is making a point in a forum, where we discuss things, based on information, it's quite helpful for other posters to know where it's come from, so we can then debate it seriously or put it down as a guess/conspiracy theory.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Like what exactly?

Fair enough Jorderz, fair enough.........

(how much they paying you?)

;biggrin

#InButtonHitsItWouldAppear

#CurrentFavourite

#TheCircle

;wink

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I strongly refute the notion that there is a circle, as do the others members ;whistle

MrsGrey

It's more like a wonky oblong ;ok

OldCastleSwift

Oblong.

That's a very satisfying word to say.

Oblong.

Ob. Long.

MrsGrey

It is, isn't it. ;wahoo

I quite like it paired with wonky, too.

TwistandShout

Jorderz has been inducted to the circle ;star

Ravel49

Is that a fact ;wink

Hantshammer

I like wonky donkey.
He should have been on that farm with chicken little and turkey lurkey.... ;wink

TwistandShout

OldCastleSwift said:

Oblong.

That's a very satisfying word to say.

Oblong.

Ob. Long.

Pedro Oblong

Expat_Hammer

Or was it Oblongga

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

TwistAndShout said:

Jorderz has been inducted to the circle ;star

I sphere this idea may be catching on...

Ravel49

in a round about way

Expat_Hammer

Orbviously Jorderz

Ravel49

Vorselaarhammer

Hope he doesn't get injured....

claretandbluesky

Perhaps he had to use the family one as the 'it's my dream to play for _____' wouldn't have worked as he has already played for them. We haven't heard the it's my dream one for a while, there was a time we heard nothing but ' it's my dream to play in the Premiership, to play for Real, to play for whoever'

footballers ;doh