Dimi Payet; the Epilogue

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  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I can't see anybody paying £30 million for Payet.

    One very good season after ten years of nobody ever having heard of him, then the next season turns into a lazy, strop-throwing liability and refuses to play for his club only a few months into a huge long-term contract (for whatever reason).

    Who pays £30 million for that?
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Considering Bolasie and Sissoko both cost 30 million... Payet is on a different planet
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Maybe. But what about the fact he's had one amazing season in ten or twelve?

    What about his age?

    What about his attitude?

    I'm not so sure he's worth as much as he hoped he would be when this kicked off.

    But I guess we'll find out as the window goes on ;hmm
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Don't get me wrong, relative to the market and other recent deals, he is worth a lot.

    BUT the market doesn't always work like that. He's worth as much as a team wants/needs him.

    He's too lazy for the managers of Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool and Spurs. Arsenal don't pay big on players of his age. Madrid and Barca aren't signing anybody, the rest of La Liga is skint.

    So you're left with Marseille who sold him for £10 million only last season (how do they feel about buying him back for £30 million?) or PSG maybe, a big German team? Or China, who would pay big, but probably unlikely.

    ;hmm
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    The one consolation is if we flogged him for £25m and he produced wonders for Marseille at least it wouldn't be in our league, and therefore we would not have our faces openly rubbed in the dirt
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Surely he's good as gone then

    Sell him as he's never ever going to play if he's lost the support of his teammates (add the fans made their feelings clear)
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I don't think ExWHUEmp should have put that in the public domain. It to me smacks of snooping.
  • alderzalderz
    Depends if you believe him or not, Suz.

    I do like the idea of Noble and Ginge stood arms crossed telling him he can't come out to play though.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I'm inclined to not believe him.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Me too,

    however as an observation,

    I doubt that Ginge would need Nobles help in blocking his entrance to the restaurant
  • McHammerMcHammer
    http://talksport.com/football/dimitri-payet-will-never-play-west-ham-again-and-he-will-be-sold-month-harry-redknapp-tells
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I don't think they should take less than 30m as otherwise we would find it hard to spend the money on as significant a player (if 20m gets you Andre Ayew). Although he is 30 he has a rare ability and is one of those rare players who make teams better on their own and can change and win matches with flashes of brilliance. He may not be Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo or Bale but he is in the next tier down and that for me means he cannot go for ordinary money, and in this crazy world now 20m is ordinairy premiership money, Spurs seem to be asking 20m for Ben Davies which should make Payet a lot more than 30m.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    SuzanneClaret said:

    I'm inclined to not believe him.

    I was a bit ;hmm when he said it, but there must be something in it otherwise it's libellous and I'm just not sure that he would take that risk.

    It's one thing to speculate on transfers, but to make such a definite statement suggests to me that it may well be true.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    billybondsbeard said:

    Rumour on KUMB of Payet to Lyon for Lacazette ;wahoo

    This would be amazing.

    Which is why it won't happen.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Cant see them wanting both Depay and Payet. Maybe the 'Pay' part got lost in translation ;whistle
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    OldCastleSwift said:

    SuzanneClaret said:

    I'm inclined to not believe him.

    I was a bit ;hmm when he said it, but there must be something in it otherwise it's libellous and I'm just not sure that he would take that risk.

    It's one thing to speculate on transfers, but to make such a definite statement suggests to me that it may well be true.
    I really can't see millionaires Mark Noble and James Collins being concerned with the libel of some bloke on Twitter they've never heard of.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    OCS, it might not be true, but how would it then be 'libellous'? It's not defamatory, or damaging to their reputation, I don't think.

  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Was gonna add that as well ;ok

    Total damages awarded to that libel would be about £1.57.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    ;lol that not even enough for a coffee.
  • LukerzLukerz
    TBH I would expect the players to omit him. No point when he's gonna be gone in 12 days.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Because, to be honest, when I first heard it I did think it could come across as bullying, almost. That because Payet said he didn’t want to play for the club he’s been ostracised by the rest of the players.

    I know there’s an argument that this is all of Payet’s doing and you reap what you sow, but it didn’t sit particularly comfortably with me.
  • LukerzLukerz
    OCS - get what you mean there. ;ok
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    OCS, I don't agree.

    I think they are entitled to invite (or not invite) anyone they like to a social event. It's not an official club thing.

    In addition, its not bullying imo (a term which seems to me to be overused these days, to describe any kind of 'mean' behaviour or nasty remark).
  • alderzalderz
    OCS

    I see what you mean, however I think that the counter argument would be that it was a first team meal out, and Payet isn't in the first team anymore (I even changed him on my database so I didn't have to look at his stupid name).
  • Dodger58Dodger58
    If he hasn't learnt much English he cannot exactly join in either ... ;whistle
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Mrs G – that’s why I added the caveat of ‘almost’. For me it sits somewhere in between. Of course they’re entitled to invite and un-invite whoever they like, and you could argue they have justifiable reasons for doing what they’ve allegedly done, but it did smack a little bit of ‘it’s my ball and you can’t play’.

    Happy to stand in a minority, but that’s how it came across to me ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Actually I agree with you OCS.

  • Dodger58Dodger58
    edited January 2017
    OCS, I see it a bit differently. In a team game ego is very dangerous and when the ego decides it does not want to continue to be involved it rapidly becomes corrosive. If one of my team 'mates' suddenly upped and said he didn't want to be a member of my team ever again and would refuse to play, I'm not convinced he'd continue to be a 'mate'.

    However, if he had explained there were family issues and he wanted to move away, but continued to give his all for the team before moving, he would always be a 'mate'.

    All this along with Noble's comments about hardly having spoken to him for 3 weeks (was it), all imply to me where the fault lies ...
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    ;ok

    If they have done it, I have no problem with that (personally).

    For me, it's more like Dimi said 'your ball's rubbish, I don't want to play with it.' ;biggrin
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I don't think it's ideal behaviour, which is why it almost certainly didn't happen.

    Anyway, are they trying to say Payet actually wanted to go? That wouldn't have been awkward sharing some chow mein with a 6 foot 4 geordie with glowering eyes and a grudge ;lol
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