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Herb
I think that if Mr & Mrs Noble ever go through a rough patch it's highly unlikely that Mr Noble will jack his job in.
http://www.whu606.com/discussion/comment/844950/#Comment_844950
Have you somehow been reading my mind through the magic of the internet thingy? ;biggrin
Moojor, there's no evidence of anything other than he has refused to play. The reasons behind that maybe many and various but we don't know for sure.
Using the evidence we have, which is Slav's and the clubs response and Dimi's pervious in doing this sort of thing we can make an informed guess as to why he has refused to play.
We don't know the reasons, but we can read an awful lot into the pain and reactions of those who do know the reasons.
HUGE CHINA OFFERS FOR PAYET
Ding, ding, ding! Three big transfer stories in a row - the latest features West Ham man Dimitri Payet.
Sky sources understand he is turning down wages of £500,000-a-week from three Chinese Super League clubs because he wants to return to Marseille.
Hebei China Fortune and two other CSL clubs have contacted Payet’s representatives to say they are willing to pay him £26 million a year to move to China. Hebei China Fortune are managed by former Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini.
Payet is refusing to play for West Ham and has told manager Slaven Bilic he wants to return to France for family reasons. He earns £125,000-a-week at West Ham and is willing to take a pay cut of at least 30 per cent to move back to Marseille.
Marseille made a second bid of £20 million for Payet on Monday. West Ham want at least £30 million.
Seems to me the consensus is that whatever the motivation, (and most accept it probably has something to do with family rather than greed) it is the way he has gone about things that has rankled.
I personally still doubt the family PR, seems like a backtrack, on the basis that there's no evidence for it and the way Bilic and the club have treated Payet suggests to me his reason isn't so valid.
I mean, would Bilic really have hung Payet out to dry in the press conference if Payet had asked to leave because of family issues?
Would he have sent him to train with the kids?
You'd think Noble would have used his interview to say Payet is going through a tough time, too, but he didn't.
Same with Carroll.
Everybody seems hurt and angry. As a club, I feel like our entire reaction would have been different if Payet was going through terrible family problems.
A) china - in which case it will have been a money reason
B ) a Man Utd or Chelsea - in which case he wanted a "better" club than us
C) Marseille (on I would assume a lower wage) which may well then point to homesickness/family issues
Any or all of that might be true, but it still wouldn't explain or excuse his behaviour, imo.
Their lack of sympathy and their obvious hurt suggests the reason is not one that deserves much sympathy.
People may say he's gone about it the wrong way but he may have been talking about it for some time and felt the club left him with no other option.
To also say well he can go an forfeit his salary or payment, why should he. No one else would.
Personally I think he may still go to PSG who may pay more for him and just be a little closer to home.
I am sure it wont be long until a player has the confidence to do this and runs his original contract down and only signs one year deals to retain full control of going where he wants and picking up signing on fees each time instead of clubs exchanging big fees.
You say he's wanted to leave for 'some time' - he only signed last summer, and signed a big new contract not much more than 12 months ago.
He seemed to enjoy all of last season too. It's only since we've been fighting relegation that his performances have turned so listless.
To support what you're saying, he must have wanted to leave almost immediately after joining or straight after signing a big new deal.
Really, the earliest he could have really wanted to leave in a big way is the summer, which means that after only a few months he's at the point of refusing to wear the shirt.
Not good enough.
So,they might have sent an undercover alien to make contact with his agent. But if the alien got knocked back, they might have felt that their only choices were kidnap, or cloning.
Now, knowing he has a family, and being on board with the Family > Football philosophy (coming from the east end of the galaxy, salt of the universe and all that) they might have decided they had no other option but to use the advanced gene and cloning technology which, personally, I don't think it beyond the bounds of possibility they might have developed. After all, who of us would categorically rule out other worlds, other technologies more advanced than out own?
Sadly, the unavoidable consequence of the technology might be that is that it alters the mindset of the subject. So as a result of alien technology, Dimi's thought processes could have been altered. Hence his uncharacteristic behaviour.
Just sayin'