Stick to £35M I say then if not sold January dont pay wages as he has refused to play. If the reports I read on here are true and he upsets others in the team/affects team morale he shouldnt be near the club so shouldnt play. Not sure if we have to pay if he does a U turn and decides he wants to play? . Sell on in Summer for at least what we paid. Anything else is a bonus?
...And to make it worse they let Matt Upson come back to train with us. One of the few I would like the club to banish forever ;doh
If I wasn't annoyed enough by this whole situation and Payet's attitude, I see that picture of him and Upson. Why the heck is Matty 'captain' Upson 'training' with our U23's? Would have thought he'd still be persona non grata at Chadwel Heath.
Really tough situation with Payet now. I really don't want to sell for less than £30m (I feel that is the right value for him) but fear what problems his continued presence could cause. Glad I'm not the one making decisions...
I just pray they (or another french team) come back with a 30m plus offer in the next couple of days.
For what its worth, it might be he best thing to take the £26 Mil with some add on's, that's a good profit on what we paid, would save any further unpleasantness and gives us a bit of time to spend the proceeds wisely (I know, I know - spending wisely may be a push). If it gets left 'til the last day or so it will either be a panic buy (don't want no more of the thank you) or the money does not get spent - would then be a bit worried where it would end up.
hmmm yes, I have a feeling he's not going to be able to rebuild his confidence quickly. Possibly he's now only woth 25-30 and going down by 1k each month after January...
To be honest, as long as we got £30m+ it wouldn't bother me if it was done on the stroke of deadline. If we can't therefore bring anyone in to replace, just wait and spend it in the summer. I feel this season we'll just be mid level anyway, I can't see even with a big signing us getting above 8th this season, and (please God don't let this come back to haunt me) I don't think we're relegation material.
But that's my worry FR - would it all get spent in the summer or would some/all of it disappear to pay of loans or something - it might mean more available from the money we get at the end of the season but still....
I think we should get the money as early as we can now, then the players we get now will have some time to settle into the team, Slav can shape it more to how he wants it ready for next seasons campaign. Also we will not (hopefully) need to buy in so many in the Summer.
Adme, I get your point, but even if we received the money tomorrow, there's no guarantee it would all be spent on recruitment and not some fall down the back of the sofa.
Also, I agree that any players brought in now have the rest of this season to 'adjust' to then hit next season running, but then again players are generally more expensive now so we'd have less to spend come the summer... I wish there was an obvious right way for us to play this - all possible variations have benefits and drawbacks.
FR, it is a quandary and I do see your points as well - my preference is to buy now, sort out the team to have a good second half of the season, finish as high as possible and on a positive to make us an attractive prospect for any players we go after in the summer to strengthen the squad, have a decent pre-season (ok, ok you can stop laughing at that), and hit the ground running next season.
However, I know other people have other ideas and as we are not the owners we don't really have any say - they may have other plans depending on how things go and will do (or try to) what they think is best.
Expat, that's a bit harsh isn't it, nefarious means wicked or criminal not Thorn, unless you know something about Thorn that you're keeping to yourself ;biggrin
Apologies if this has been posted on this thread already but this is from 17th Jan on BBC website:
French journalist Julien Laurens on 5 live's Monday Night Club
"In 2011, when he was at Saint-Etienne, he wanted to go to Paris St-Germain, which was his dream move. He tried everything again to force them to sell him. The club stood their ground - he had to go with the reserves, they fined him. In the end, he had to come back and he apologised and said: 'I have made a mistake, I'm young.' He is a very stubborn man and at the time it didn't work out for him, but he really believes this time it will happen for him. Eighteen months ago Payet did not want to leave Marseille. They forced him to leave in a way, because they had to sell him to balance their books. He never really settled in England. His family are not settled, the children are not happy at school, his wife is not happy. They all went back to France and are already looking at new schools there. The main issue for him has always been the family. They were not happy and that was impacting on him as a person and as a player. Payet will take a cut out to go back to Marseille, it is not about the money. He is not going to China. Marseille have already reached an agreement to go back, now it is between the clubs."
So this again points to it being a family issue, although, of course, it does not excuse Payet's behaviour.
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Marseille can do one - 26mil aint 30mil.
Come back when you willing to pay 30mil before I decide it should be 35mil.
Sell on in Summer for at least what we paid. Anything else is a bonus?
That's why I want him sold
I just pray they (or another french team) come back with a 30m plus offer in the next couple of days.
I think we should get the money as early as we can now, then the players we get now will have some time to settle into the team, Slav can shape it more to how he wants it ready for next seasons campaign. Also we will not (hopefully) need to buy in so many in the Summer.
Also, I agree that any players brought in now have the rest of this season to 'adjust' to then hit next season running, but then again players are generally more expensive now so we'd have less to spend come the summer...
I wish there was an obvious right way for us to play this - all possible variations have benefits and drawbacks.
I don't have time now, but I'll do a bit of digging tomorrow.See what more I can find out.
However, I know other people have other ideas and as we are not the owners we don't really have any say - they may have other plans depending on how things go and will do (or try to) what they think is best.
Shame.
French journalist Julien Laurens on 5 live's Monday Night Club
"In 2011, when he was at Saint-Etienne, he wanted to go to Paris St-Germain, which was his dream move. He tried everything again to force them to sell him.
The club stood their ground - he had to go with the reserves, they fined him. In the end, he had to come back and he apologised and said: 'I have made a mistake, I'm young.' He is a very stubborn man and at the time it didn't work out for him, but he really believes this time it will happen for him.
Eighteen months ago Payet did not want to leave Marseille. They forced him to leave in a way, because they had to sell him to balance their books. He never really settled in England.
His family are not settled, the children are not happy at school, his wife is not happy. They all went back to France and are already looking at new schools there. The main issue for him has always been the family. They were not happy and that was impacting on him as a person and as a player.
Payet will take a cut out to go back to Marseille, it is not about the money. He is not going to China. Marseille have already reached an agreement to go back, now it is between the clubs."
So this again points to it being a family issue, although, of course, it does not excuse Payet's behaviour.